Nazi Watch USA

[RNK]

You're so right!

Nazi Watch Canada is VERY superior. All of their posts are jam-packed with information. Such as a single picture with a Yahoo username. So very informative.

I can't help but notice that you seem to have taken Nazi Watch USA incredibly, incredibly personally. Rather than make constructive criticisms, you've become completely overwhelmed with emotional knee-jerk responses and insults. Why?

[Sir_No_Sir]

I totally agree with RavenBlade 100%.


Solidarity and Justice

[OneBrickOneVoice]

well straight facts are a bit boring but yes, I do think that from now on the admins will try to stick more to the facts

[OneBrickOneVoice]

oh yeah and RavenBlade why not help take charge? PM me if you're interested and I'll hook you in if you don't like how its going right now

[Prairie Fire]

Nazi Watch Canada is VERY superior. All of their posts are jam-packed with information. Such as a single picture with a Yahoo username. So very informative.

I said it was BETTER. Nazi watch Canada features real names, organizations, deeds,place of residence for the majority of the featured nazi scum on their blog.
Canada Nazi watch is much better than it's USA counterpart.

I can't help but notice that you seem to have taken Nazi Watch USA incredibly, incredibly personally. Rather than make constructive criticisms, you've become completely overwhelmed with emotional knee-jerk responses and insults. Why?

I did give a lot of constructive criticism; I specifically inquired as to why the blog is not posting names of organizations, areas of residence, deeds and other miscellaneous history on the majority of their featured nazis.

As for the emotional response, I'm not quite down with Nazi watch Canada's slogan of "no sympathy for nazi sympathy". Let's be clear; most modern-day, north-american fascists are not the fucking SS; they are people who went down the wrong path in life . If you want to fight fascism, what better way than to figure out why people turn to fascism? I mean, beating the shit out of bone-heads at the subway station is a short term remedy to the nazi problem. If you want to stomp out fascism you need to understand "what drives a persyn to fascism?" I've heard many theories, ranging from repressed homosexuality ( obsession with the male body, but inability to express it in a romantic context), thrill seeking hooliganism,to massive inferiority complex, to plain lack of education (Although that one is a little bit too convenient, while there is a grain of truth to it.).

I think it's juvenile to write nazi's off and laugh at their dysfunction, which is most likely what lead them to fascism in the first place. Monsters are a product of their surroundings.

It isn't quite fair to say my responses were "knee jerk", I was just invoking imagery to prove my point. Besides you have to correct misogynist notions when you encounter them. I don't care if the author of the site was speaking of our enemies; under no context is spousal abuse appropriate.

well straight facts are a bit boring but yes, I do think that from now on the admins will try to stick more to the facts

Well, Nazi watch Canada can also be pretty liberal with the taunting and trash talking. Persynally, talking about ruthless nazi thugs, who are a clear and present danger to entire communities, is anything but boring; it's downright alarming.

oh yeah and RavenBlade why not help take charge? PM me if you're interested and I'll hook you in if you don't like how its going right now

I'm not sure how useful I'd be. I have a decent handle on the Canadian nazi situation, but I don't know who the players are in the American nazi movement.

I'll give it some thought, and then I'll reply.

[RNK]

I don't see much difference between the level of information on either site. Canada Watch might have more, but they also have many people on there with nothing more than an online screen name from Yahoo or some shit. Both sites give as much info as they have and both sites obviously give info even if they have almost none.

As for confronting Nazis on an ideological level... that's fine, of course, but often it simply doesn't work. We can't, and shouldn't, limit ourselves only to intellectual struggle.

And like I said, just because Nazis have their names posted on the internet doesn't mean they've been targetted for violence. One of the guys on NW USA, I forget which one, has his info up on other sites as well and Antifa activists one afternoon went to his neighbourhood, distributed informative leaflets to the people in his community (all of whom were disgusted that a Nazi lived in their neighbourhood) and stood outside his house for a few minutes. It was incredibly successful and not a single act of violence occured. That is the kind of stuff we need to do. Social pressure.

[Prairie Fire]

As for confronting Nazis on an ideological level... that's fine, of course, but often it simply doesn't work. We can't, and shouldn't, limit ourselves only to intellectual struggle.

I think you mis-read my reply RNK ( You seem to do this often. Didn't you accuse me of being an anti-Leninist anarchist on the "Ghandi supported Leninism" thread?).

At no time, did I ever state that we limit ourselves to intellectual struggle. At no time did I ever claim that we should reject violent methods. What I said was:

If you want to fight fascism, what better way than to figure out why people turn to fascism? I mean, beating the shit out of bone-heads at the subway station is a short term remedy to the nazi problem. If you want to stomp out fascism you need to understand "what drives a persyn to fascism?"

I never claimed that pacifist, logical discussion was the solution to the fascist problem. I support my Comrades, like Comrade Marcel, who spill nazi blood on occasion. Their bravery deserves applause. My point was that , in order to truly defeat fascism, we need to understand the root causes of fascism.

And like I said, just because Nazis have their names posted on the internet doesn't mean they've been targetted for violence. One of the guys on NW USA, I forget which one, has his info up on other sites as well and Antifa activists one afternoon went to his neighbourhood, distributed informative leaflets to the people in his community (all of whom were disgusted that a Nazi lived in their neighbourhood) and stood outside his house for a few minutes. It was incredibly successful and not a single act of violence occured. That is the kind of stuff we need to do. Social pressure.

Potential violence was not my point of contention. I like seeing pictures of bone-heads who've been right fucked up by the forces of justice. Those who have chosen to be soldiers of the far right should expect an ass-kicking.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

I'm not sure how useful I'd be. I have a decent handle on the Canadian nazi situation, but I don't know who the players are in the American nazi movement.

I'll give it some thought, and then I'll reply.

well none of the admins know excessive amounts I think. The critiscisms you make of NaziWatchUSA are very valid and should be dealt with, but keep in mind, the joint is about a week and a half old with few people supporting it or administrating it.

Finding information on fascists is not easy at all. Most have not figured out how to use a computer yet, let alone the internet, and those who have don't go posting their persynal info everywhere, which is why it takes mass amounts of people to be seeing this thing and administrating it.