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    Uhmm so yea.

    There is this guy who works at safeway, couldnt be more then 20-24 years old.

    Once he helped me find the cookies.

    BUT! Anyway! I saw him come into Timmies one night I was working and he was with a group of gothic/alternativly dressed friends and has on this WHOPPING huge
    confederate flag belt (Which he displays with pride, tucking his shirt in behind it so tha tis shows). He also has a shaved head and has big black boots.
    He hasnt worn anything millitary yet but he wears saggy jeans and white t-shirts most of the time.

    Chould he be a neocon or nazi or anything? I think he is but I am not quite sure.

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    I would NEVER think of eating those potatoe* marshmellows!

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    If you live in the South US, he could just be an ignorant redneck. I get lots of those.
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    I live in Victoria, BC, Canada. Victoria is a city. No rednecks here.. mostly asian students, liberals and tourists..

    I have never, and I mean NEVER seen a nazi or anything. But then again I havnt been to frightned till recently. I know there is an active male chauvanist group here... I know a place where it would be most obvious they are there.. And my SHARP friend told me where to avoid.... .
    I would NEVER think of eating those potatoe* marshmellows!

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    That flag is worn by apolitical people as well as racists.
    So its hard to tell.

    A "rebel' flag alone is not enough evidence that the cookie guy is a nazi.
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    Yea don't assume but seriously if you wanna find out for real just outright ask him. If is he a fascist then you know if not then it clears up confusion.
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    Ask him about the confederacy belt. just out of curiosity. if you ask him straight up, "hey, are you a fash?" he might get wise.

    Hah, a fash get wise? Well, it's possible. I suppose. Theoretically.

    Anyway, try not to make it obvious you're asking for political reasons. Else you might get in trouble.
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    Or perhaps instead of outright asking I should just say sumthin like "Hey, where did you get that belt?" or someshit like, "Cool belt, whats it mean?" And that will prolly let him open right up enough for me to tell....

    But I dunno... Asking him straight up might either offend him if he is apollitical or make him wonder why I am calling him a 'fash'.... unless they use that termonology to each other...

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    I would NEVER think of eating those potatoe* marshmellows!

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    its weird that someone would be wearing a confederate flag up in canada. i've seen them in the northern united states, but never in another country. i dont see why someone in canada would be wearing a confederate belt unless they knew exactly what it meant. here in the south lots of people where them as symbols of "southern pride", but i wouldnt expect to find that in canada unless he was originally from the south. to find out if he's a fascist, just express interest in his belt, but sound totally innocent. if he tells you anything about "honoring his heritage" or something like that, he's almost certainly a fash.
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    yeah most definatly. I thought it stange too.. especially in such an ethnic, young, liberal city.

    But I will investigate with the investigation and the much sneakyness of me!!

    I will update when I find out... And dont worry, seeing him at work, making an aline at the till to take his order(Xtra large black with 4 sugar and a boston cream (an sometimes he buys all of his friends things, when they are with him)!!!! *his order*) and speakin up about his belt is compleatly innocent. lol.
    I would NEVER think of eating those potatoe* marshmellows!

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    My mum studied in Canada a couple of decades ago. She told me there was a scholls called the "Confederate School" which used the Confederate flag (she didn't know what the flag meant at the time). Interesting...maybe some Southeners went up there after the Civil War or something.
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    no fuckin clue but I know is Sask and Ontario it is very hick and conservative. anti-abortion posters all about. Crazy preachers. but not here in Victoria.... is it?
    I would NEVER think of eating those potatoe* marshmellows!

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    Originally posted by Ihavenoidea@March 22, 2007 02:30 am
    Chould he be a neocon or nazi or anything? I think he is but I am not quite sure.

    -Bella
    No.

    The shaven head or "skinhead" is meaningless, it's a type of music, Skinhead music, is similar to reggae and was started by afro-carribeans. As you probably know if you have a SHARP friend.

    Jackboots, are the same.

    And the confederate flag is associated with punk music, without any obvious political overtones. Even "Punx Not Red" is often used by a-political punks.

    So, I don't think theres any reason to jump to conclusions. Ask him is he likes Skrewdriver or something.
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    Originally posted by Love Underground+March 22, 2007 12:17 pm--> (Love Underground @ March 22, 2007 12:17 pm)
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    Chould he be a neocon or nazi or anything? I think he is but I am not quite sure.

    -Bella
    No.

    The shaven head or "skinhead" is meaningless, it's a type of music, Skinhead music, is similar to reggae and was started by afro-carribeans. As you probably know if you have a SHARP friend.

    Jackboots, are the same.

    And the confederate flag is associated with punk music, without any obvious political overtones. Even "Punx Not Red" is often used by a-political punks.

    So, I don't think theres any reason to jump to conclusions. Ask him is he likes Skrewdriver or something. [/b]
    not in north america, especially the united states. here th confederate flag is a symbol of "southern heritage" (according to those who display them), but more often than not are symbols of racist sympathies disguised as "heritage". i have never seen the confederate flag used in a punk context in north america, its always been in a racial or seccesionist context.
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    And the confederate flag is associated with punk music, without any obvious political overtones.
    Not at all. Not only does it have very large political overtones, but I have never seen or heard of it being associated with punk culture, at least in America. Here it is a symbol or either Southern pride or racism or a combination of the two.
    You seem neat, but...

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    Originally posted by Fawkes@March 22, 2007 10:34 pm
    And the confederate flag is associated with punk music, without any obvious political overtones.
    Not at all. Not only does it have very large political overtones, but I have never seen or heard of it being associated with punk culture, at least in America. Here it is a symbol or either Southern pride or racism or a combination of the two.
    Well, ok, in the UK is commonly used with no political meaning.
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    Love Underground, I assume it is used in the UK as the swastika was used by bands such as the Sex Pistols and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Just a kind of shock tactic or perhaps for no reason at all.

    My guess is he probably doesn't know what it means, he just thinks it looks cool. Kinda like those kids who wear the Che shirts but have no idea who he is/what he did when you ask about it.

    If you really want to know I'd casually say something like "Hey cool belt, what does it mean?"
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    My mum studied in Canada a couple of decades ago. She told me there was a scholls called the "Confederate School" which used the Confederate flag (she didn't know what the flag meant at the time). Interesting...maybe some Southeners went up there after the Civil War or something.
    Maybe, but I doubt Canada offered amnesty to most of the slaves I doubt they would have taken KKK at the same time...

    if he tells you anything about "honoring his heritage" or something like that, he's almost certainly a fash
    Nah not necessarly, I mean he could be from The Southren states or something.

    My guess is he probably doesn't know what it means, he just thinks it looks cool. Kinda like those kids who wear the Che shirts but have no idea who he is/what he did when you ask about it.
    totally.

    Just talk to him, mention the belt and see what happens, if you get a fascist vibe, punch him and run. :P
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    well I saw him but I got no opportunity to talk to him.

    He was not wearing th belt. But after looking at victoria's archives and seeing how many attacks there are from neo-nazi groups and male chauvanist groups (there is a huge male chauvanist group here ;- I wouldnt put my guard down. He may not be a fash, but I should keep my eyes open. lol.. Especially that the men of god (as those chauvanists call themselves) are starting to get very active and rowdy....
    I would NEVER think of eating those potatoe* marshmellows!

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    I once watched a band play because the guitarist used to go to my school. They were a kind of metal band and the lead singer had lots of long hair and a confederate flag tied to his mic stand, and this is in the UK! I don't think he's particularly fascist though. Maybe this guy you have seen is not fascist but the flag is just a metal icon?
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    If he is with Goth friends, there is your clue. They like to shock and wear stuff that looks a bit outrageous, but it is in reality completely harmless. He is probably just out for a bit of attention.

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