Anti-fascist raped and murdered in NJ?

[Political_Chucky]

Originally posted by sultan+March 08, 2007 07:26 am--> (sultan @ March 08, 2007 07:26 am)

Hiero

@March 08, 2007 09:13 am

Sir, please, you're making a fool of yourself.

I AM a fool. It's not my fault and I don't need you to come down on me like it is just because my veiws of the world are "molded" a little different. [/b]

Your "molded" views have been molded through the many misconceptions of what a horny teenager thinks. As many people have pointed out, rape really has nothing to do with making love, lust, or anything what sex should be associated with. Rape is about dominance, about over-powering a victim into a submission of humiliation. I don't understand why you allow yourself to be a fool and happily admit it. Its not a good thing to be ignorant you know....and I suggest you take this advice: Think before you talk.

[dez]

I'd say it fits properly the character of male nazis to rap* other males.
Having possessive notions over se*uality and thinking hommoss*xuality is unnatural and wrong, to a homoss*xual, would make the person hate itself so much at a level that embracing ideologies such as fascism wouldn't just seem ok, would reinforce their manhood.
Therefore i'd say that rap* is an act of dominance, that having the p*nis inserted at someone might have that power aura to some people, but i'd also say that not everyone has the power to "get it up" at will, and that it indeed is possible for some man-to-man rap*rs to be homoss*xuals.

firewall over here, *=e

[Comrade Marcel]

Just a few comments before I close this thread.

There is no concensus on what a "homosexual" is. If you had sex with a person of the same sex once in your life, are you a homosexual? I think for a person to be considered a homosexual it would have to be a concious label of their own choice.

Male-on-male rape is rarely driven by homosexual urges, but by dominant, violent and power dynamic motives, as has already been pointed out by other comrades.

There has also been cases of nazis/fascists/homophobes committing male-on-male rape with the above psychology in mind.

Also, there has been similar cases of gay bashing, with the bashers then going home, getting drunk and having a big homosexual orgy with each other.

This is actually an extreme condition of homophobia. The homophobic person(s) has strong homo erotic feelings, and uses anger to suppress them. The anger has to be released as well though. They find someone who is a symbol of homosexuality (the "flaming homosexual" in the gay district) and use violence on them to release the anger. However, a feeling of guilt and/or regret kicks in after. Alcohol is used to suppress this, and as intoxication kicks in they become more relaxed. Since the homosexual feelings can not be cured, urges soon come back and the person lets themselves engage in gay sex. The next day the sex part is not discussed, ever, in their mind it's like it never happened and the same events happen again next week, or next month, or whenever....

I am going to close this thread now since it was based on a rumor or something, and sultan's comments have soured the thread. sultan you really need to grow up.