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I want to make it clear that I am not a reformist.
However, recently several cities in the county where I live, in Arizona, have begun placing surveillence cameras on traffic lights as well as similar cameras equipped with radar at various locations throughout the city streets, highways, and freeways.
These cameras take pictures of the license plates and drivers of people allegedly running red lights or speeding, and then mail the ticket to the suspect.
Comrades of mine may have engaged in some acts of sabatoge on these fascist tools, but if so, it was with limited success.
I am now in the process of filing a lawsuit against these cities, representing myself (termed a "Pro Se" or "Pro Per" litigant), in the Superior Court of Arizona. I am doing legal research on rights of privacy, etc. Although I am hopeful of a favorable outcome, I am a realist who understands that using the tools of the very system against itself is more often than not futile.
My main argument at this point rests on the fact that the cameras are owned and operated by a private firm, who, along with the cameras themselves, are acting as defacto agents of the government, or more specifically, de facto agents of law enforcement.
The ironic thing is that I worked for a company who a few years ago had affiliations with the company who owns and operates these cameras. I won't go into what sort of business we did with them, except that during the course of that business, it was revealed to me that several employees of the firm were handling the photographs somewhat, let's say, unprofessionally. I don't know if the fact that I worked for a company who worked with this company is a conflict of interest, and I probably can't use my own memories regarding this in court (I'd probably have to find a co-worker from that period of time who is willing to testify).
Anyway, what do you all think of this? Am I wasting my time? I feel I have to do something. With facial recognition technology becoming more advanced every year, what's to say these cameras won't be used to find anyone who has a 5-year old warrant for marijuana possession and dispatch police squad cars to their location? Or do the same thing for anyone on some sort of government list of "terrorists", or "bad people" who haven't even committed a crime. Or simply tracking the day to day activities of civilians; where they go, what they do, etcetera. With the advancement of facial recognition technology, and the expansion of cameras, it could become impossible for a human to live his or her life day-to-day without succumbing to the forces of a fascist-style police state.
I realize that revolution is the solution to all of these problems, however one cannot force capitalism to collapse, capitalism will collapse under it's own weight. In the interim, we can work to hasten this process, but we also must work to make sure that in the mean time, our daily lives are free of such police-state antics as surveillence cameras on every street corner.
Good luck.
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I personally would advise against using the court system because one its going to be a waste of money and time and two their just going to throw a 'homeland security' excuse in your face. I would say **but do not endorse** getting a group of comrades, masking up and destroying as many of these camera's as you can.
thats the attitude that gets us no where, we cant all just sit around and wait for capitalism to collapse, we have to make it!
I remember once reading an article about people in the U.K. that actually would go so far as to blow up the cameras. In fact, for a test last year I had to write an essay on surveillance cameras and oddly enough, my old school now has them. Anyway, good luck that.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
Good luck to you comrade.
Yeah, surveillance cameras are definitely police-state antics.
I'm planning to move to the UK in a couple of years, but i've been reading up and apparently many cities are really densely covered by the cameras. Something about the average person in the UK is filmed on surveillance camera about 300 times a day.
also, they are doing an experiment of putting cameras with speakers up and the people watching you can shout at you through the cameras - scary shit for many psychological reasons.
Here's an Article
Yep people do blow them up. In northern ireland they are put in catholic areas and often cet cut down, set them on fire and blow them up.
You reallise that you could just not speed right? It would save you money, theres no risk of getting arrested for it, and who knows, you may end up not killing someone...
Speed cameras are just money making schemes.
you realize that the point of the discussion isn't speeding bu the police-state style surveillance cameras?
Or are you one of those "if i'm not doing anything wrong i have nothing to worry about" idiots?
Yeah, the problem isn't why the cameras are there, it's the fact that they are there and invading people's privacy.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
If your not speeding whats the problem?
The camera's are outside in public areas where anyone can watch or see you. You cant walk outside and sue everyone who sees you claiming they violated your right to privacy by being there, the same should be true for the speed cameras.
That you're getting watched and recorded by a video camera.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
As opposed to being watched by the hundreds of other potential people with eyes who could happen to see you?
your dam right we do. fuck interface surveillience
that doesnt matter, it what it could lead to. Like the x ray cameras in lamposts.
oh yea and fuck the roman catholic church. Irish catholic by birth Irish Republician by choice
Like Welshred said (that rhymed), doing this opens the doors to future gov't intervention into our lives.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
bigbrother springs to mind.
If these cameras dont cause a problem then allow them. Start blowing things up when they actually intrude into your lives.Originally posted by Fawkes+February 07, 2007 07:38 pm--> (Fawkes @ February 07, 2007 07:38 pm)Like Welshred said (that rhymed
It just sets a bad precedent in my mind.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
