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    Anyone who believes in something should go to a shrink.
    First: If you believe somthing is right then you have no clue what you`re talking about, you`re only being taken by a mass of people that also has no clue of what
    they are doing.
    Second: If you really know something is right then thats whats gonna change the whole world.
    THE KNOWLEDGE IS THE ONLY POWER YOU NEED.
    Faith wont take you anywhere.
    Knowledge is the only thing that will.
    WAKE UP!
    hey, did you forget?
    the opressed have the right and should use violence against the opressor.
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    So....you believe that knowledge is the only power that you need?
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    Yeah, nice 'belief'.
    I\'m right, and you\'re wrong. -Vox
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    i hesitate to say it but they do have points ernesto. besides, sokrates was considered one of the most brillent men on the face of the earth precisely because he knew nothing
    can humans really truely know anything?
    or can we only believe we know something?
    sorry to get philosophical but that was my undergrad degree
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    Well, we know that the Reagan administration illegally funded the terrorists in Nicaragua, right?

    The slippery slope of solipsism may be a fun parlor game, but it's of no use outside the Ivory Tower.

    Face it, we know that people starve to death because of capitalism (Agusto, before you go off half-cocked, read Sen on famine) and we know that you have to kill a cow to make a hamburger.

    Ernestito, others may wish to make an issue of an awkward sentence, but your point is clear, and I, for one, am with you.

    vox
    Economists have provided capitalists with a comforting concept called the "free market." It does not describe any part of reality, at any place or time. It's a mantra conveniently invoked when it is proposed that government do something the faithful don't like, and just as conveniently ignored whenever they want government to do something for them.
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    How do you define faith though? Or "belief" because people easily equate those things with being in conjunction with religion ONLY.

    People actually believe that humanism and atheism are religions!?????!!!!????

    I guess theists just can't stand the idea that people can and do live without "gods" to guide them.
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    I don't believe in magic
    I don't believe in I-ching
    I don't believe in Bible
    I don't believe in tarot
    I don't believe in Hitler
    I don't believe in Jesus
    I don't believe in Kennedy
    I don't believe in Buddha
    I don't believe in Mantra
    I don't believe in Gita
    I don't believe in Yoga
    I don't believe in kings
    I don't believe in Elvis
    I don't believe in Zimmerman
    I don't believe in Beatles
    I just believe in me
    Yoko and me
    And that's reality
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    Someone who doesn`t have faith is in no position to judge someone who has.
    If you have faith and believe in something, then as far as you are concerned you know it for a fact. ie if you believe in God, then you KNOW he exists.
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    people who believe God doesn't know he exists, they have faith that he exists.

    this is pce, i don't feel like signing in
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    ernestito and vox i somewhat agree with you guys, a higher level of concsiousness is all that is needed. I dont know if anyone have read The Phenomology of Spirit, by hegel but in it he basically says that we have created all these religions cus they ae just a part of us, we have to unlock this higher consciousness in order to see that all these things we talk about god having is really in us. no doubt im sure something created this world but i think we can achieve an almost divine nature just by using our mind. aristotle beleived in it, immanuel kant supported his idea of these things and hegel also mentioned, in fact marx became an atheist after reading a section of hegel's book. i really think we can possess all these things that we talk about being godly, perhaps not in creation but using the rational part of us can elevate above human levels. hope i didnt ramble too much but i think thats what ernest was trying to get it, and i agree i think we only need our mind and not someone outside text to tell, cus whats in those books is all in us. peace

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