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    How many of you would be willing to accept an equal suffering? If you lived in an egalitarian community/society and that community was suffering due to some economic loss or natural disaster would you remain with the community knowing that if you were to leave and begin to horde certain resources etc you would be better off than the group? I’m not talking about abject poverty of the group just a lower quality of life compared to what an individualist approach offered.
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    i don&#39;t see why i should be held back by others if i possess the means to better myself.
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    I personally dont see it as your desire, its what will happen as a result of your desire.

    The community would get angry if you begin to create this property-inequality, and attack you as a result.
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    Originally posted by colonelguppy@November 17, 2006 11:51 pm
    i don&#39;t see why i should be held back by others if i possess the means to better myself.
    Who&#39;s telling you that you would have to do that in a socialist environment?
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    well if you assume that my labor is somehow equal to another&#39;s than obvisouly the benefits of my labor will be the same and thefore by that admission my condition is being held back by those who aren&#39;t my equals.
    &quot;The usual terminology of political language is stupid. What is &#39;left&#39; and what is &#39;right&#39;? Why should Hitler be &#39;right&#39; and Stalin, his temporary friend, be &#39;left&#39;? Who is &#39;reactionary&#39; and who is &#39;progressive&#39;? Reaction against an unwise policy is not to be condemned. And progress towards chaos is not to be commended.&quot; - Ludwig von Mises
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    When the shit hits the fan, run? I don&#39;t think so. Equal rights, equal work.
    Discuss.
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    Originally posted by RevolutionaryMarxist@November 18, 2006 04:27 am
    I personally dont see it as your desire, its what will happen as a result of your desire.

    The community would get angry if you begin to create this property-inequality, and attack you as a result.
    Sounds fantasically conformist.
    I have met neither a religious fanatic nor a hard-core leftist whose arguments did not make me laugh.

    The reason is that their arguments are actually one and the same: &quot;it&#39;ll work because I believe in it, even though all available evidence is to the contrary.&quot;

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