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    There are many uprisings that occurred in the world, both successful and unsuccessful. When we talk about them as aspects of history, often they mean more to some individuals than others because some people have personal ties to the event, war, whatever

    In the United States there are organizations for ancestors of people who fought in the American Revolution and the American Civil war. I suppose members of these groups consider themselves more American or southern by being directly tied to these events.

    So my question is simply what historical events are your family tied to and how?

    To start here is my family story of how Im connected to the Irish Rebellion.

    During the Potato famine of 1847, my family couldnt afford passage to the United States so they ended up going to Glasgow Scotland where my great grandfather was born. In 1905, my great grandfather took his family and wife who was pregnant with my grandfather and moved to Boston Mass. USA.. in seek of work in his trade as a boiler maker. They didnt like the USA and moved back several years after but not before my grandfather was born making him a US Citizen. ( thats important later in this story.)

    The moved back to Glasgow where my grandfather and brothers and sisters where raised in the Irish slums of Glasgow. My great grandfather who now still had trouble finding work, began to be involved with people some would call, of questionable character. My grandfather rememembered the floorboards of their house being torn up at one point and filled with weapons that would later be picked up in the dead of night, taken to ships bound for Ireland.

    This went on for awhile, eventually my great grandfather abandoned his family and went off to Ireland to wield one of those rifles. The details of what happened to him after he arrived in Ireland are unknown as my family never heard from him again.

    My Grandfather, now growing up without a father in the Irish slums of Glasgow began to run with some kind of street gang. He was arrested on several occasions, once for throwing a brick through a base drum during an Orange parade which is when Protestants celebrated William of Oranges victory over the Irish Catholics at the battle of the Boyne. 12th of July.

    My grandfather later spent time in prison for anti-government activities Im not too clear on exactly what they where, but I do know he had socialist sympathies, involvement with a criminal element and found that finding work in the mostly protestant city as an Irish catholic boy was next to impossible.

    When he got out of Prison he was able to make his way to New York, as he was born in the States. His term in prison would have made it impossible for his immigration otherwise.

    Anyway, thats my families story whats yours?
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    During the Potato famine of 1847,
    As opposed to the hundreds of other famines which were going on at the time :biggrin:


    Interesting post, RedCeltic, unfortunatly I don't know anything about my family, beyond my grandparents, so who knows what we got up to during the various Irish rebellions.
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    my family was involved in the Slovene Revolution where Slovenia broke away from the rest of Yugoslavia. The war lasted something like 2 weeks, and the Slovenes won against a large Serb army.
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    my father was involved in the 74 socialist revolution taht overthrowed the fascist dictratorshit....

    but i dunno how deep he was involved in taht shit...
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    in wich country?
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    The only rebellious person in my family history that I know of was my maternal grandmother. She was a "Rosie the Riveter" who never went back to the kitchen. She was a shop steward in the Aluminum Workers of America from 1940 or so until she retired around 1960...she used to tell me stories about how she had to constantly give the union president hell for being too pro-company (Reynolds Metals).

    Otherwise, the values and goals that the rest of my family upheld were AWFUL...I just assumed the opposite would be a better way to live and haven't had any reason to change that opinion since.
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    I'm a relative of Rob Roy Macgregor.
    My family also lived in the slums of Glasgow. Gorbals it was called. My great uncle was involved with the communist party there. I met him for only a few hours, I ran out of time unfortunately.
    Hopefully he's still alive next time I'm in Scotland.
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    From what I've heard some of my answers were involved in gun running in the early part of the last century for the IRA/IRB. I don't know how many or how deeply involved they were though. There might have been more involved previous to that period but I've never heard any stories about that.
    Also my great-grandfather helped train Countess Markievicz (who was one of the female commanders during the 1916 rebellion) in first aid.
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    rosie riveter:
    sorry its really bad quality but its an original postcard and thats as good as it gets.


    i dont know of any interesting stories in my family.... we lived in shetland nothing interesting happens there.
    My great grandmother, moved from shetland without telling her parents and married my grandfather who they didnt "approve of". She married him, then made him move back to shetland with her, where they lived in one of those tiny houses with two rooms.
    So i suppose thats kinda important... otherwise i wouldnt be here.

    My great grandmother was a rosie riveter too, ^^^^the postcard she gave me

    not too interesting a sotry though.
    RC that is a pretty amazing story

    (Edited by mcleodstickle at 11:12 pm on Feb. 2, 2003)
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    Rosie Rivetter looks exactly like me.
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    My great uncle was Ervil Lebaron. HBO did a special on him called Prophet of Doom. He was a religious fanatic who killed a bunch of people. They had to surround a town with Mexican Military to get him. He killed my moms father and my moms first husband; my mom fled to the U.S.

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    On my grandfather's side, his family has been in my country (Argentina) for 300 years, since early 1700's (first member of the family was Manuel del Barranco, from Spain) and two of them were military chiefs who defended Buenos Aires and successfully repealed the British invasions in 1806 and 1807.
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    Not massive, but quite funny....

    My great grandfather headed a mass non-violent protest against a right-wong government which had recently taken over a Socialist government headed by a now national legend. 87 people got arrested, including him, and this turned public opinion against what was now thought of as the repressive right wing government. The government had been in place just 3 months, and 3 months after the protest, after public discontent grew, a general election was ordered where the socialists came back to power......

    Sounds massive....what country......

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    My mom's side is all Dutch, mostly Freisian, so they're all cheap, capitalist bastards. I don't know my dad's Irish side, he was adopted. But maybe they did something.
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    Rosie Rivetter: cool poster!!
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    My grandfather was in the resestince against the germans, but someone betrayed him and he was in a concentration camp for half a year.

    (Edited by Comrade Daniel at 6:50 pm on Feb. 3, 2003)
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    My mother and aunt, helped start an orginization at their high school called the Black Student Union in the 70's. The main point was basically to unite all the blacks at the school (who made up possibly 5% of the school population), and basically to protest every single thing, the Board of Education did that effected the local Black community.... and trust it was a lot of stuff.

    I currently go to the same High School, and honestly, I can say things fell apart. The Student Union became our local branch of MLK Association, and most of the black students at the high school could care less being the majority (like 60%), even though we make up the main population of the lowest achievement levels.... *Sigh*

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    I have an uncle who back in the 1880's robbed banks with jesse james his name was dick liddell. i know bank robbing and train robbing isent a rebellion but i certainly does rip off the capitalist system. i think he also was in quantrill's raiders a southern guerilla group but i am not too proud of that. and an ancestor of my family johnny armstrong back in i think the 1600's was hanged by a british king for refusing to leave his ancesteral lands. that was kinda cool
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