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    My step brothers teacher said that he was a communist who tried to blow up the british parliament. so therefore nov the 9th is a celebration of democracy (yeah Britain has/had awesome democracy).

    she then said Lein was an evil man. what a dick.

    I know nothing of this man, but I like what he tried to do.

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    I think he was a monarchist, no friend of the working class. He wanted to blow up parliament to restore the royal family to power.
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    no, guy fawkes actually tried to blow up parliamnet to KILL the king, he chose the opening day of parliament when the king was actually present, guy fawkes was NOT a monarchist, he was out to kill the king no less
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    He was in the IRA, or whatever the IRA was in those days, a catholic, nothing to do with us.

    Besides, marxists oppose individual terrorism. Acts like that in non revolutionary situations will only give capitalists ammo to turn everyone against us.
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    I don't know where you got the idea that Fawkes was an IRA member from but its definately wrong. He was a catholic though and the plot was an attempt to kill the king because of catholic persecution.
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    Interesting isn't it?

    How a teacher is telling the students a bunch of lies to make the present system look like it is fair and just. I told my step bro, not to listen to anything she says as she obviously has no brain.

    I'm sure he wasn't in the IRA wasnt this event in the 1600 or 1700's?

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    I meant whatever the IRA was at that time, there was no IRA as such but there were groups of irish republican rebels
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    He wasn't linked to any Irish Republicans.
    There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
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    Seems I was too busy blowing shit up when I should have been paying attention at school and finding out who guy fawkes really was.
    Here underneath dis laitl stean Laiz Robert Earl of Huntingdon. Near arcir ver az hie sae geud, An pipl kauld im Robin Heud: Sic an utlawz as hi an is men Vil England niver si agen. Obiit 24 Kal, dekembris, 1247 epitaph of Robin Hood
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    Fawkes wasn't a monarchist,anarchist or communist.
    He was a Catholic who attacked the house of parliment.
    Although he had some Irish roots,he didn't represent any form of Irish society or rebel group.
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    it was 5th of november... and was at the turn of the 17th century

    The reason he did it was to kill James I (of england) who was also James VI of scotland. this meant that the two thrones were combined for the first time (and have been ever since).

    There were many people in england who were not happy with this, a group of "extremists" hatched a plot... bought the house next door to the Houses of Parliament and called in Guy Fawkes to do it. These "extremists" fled to the otherside of the country and left Guy Fawkes to do it for them.

    [Damn auntie feeding me all this stuff... this must be the first time ive ever used it! lol]

    I *think* its fairly accurate... but we can only go buy what hisotrians etc say i suppose
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    He was a Cathoilc, thats why whenever you burn a Guy on the bonfire, you're burning a Catholic, that's why 5th November isn't celebrated in N. Ireland.
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    yup, he was catholic.
    Qeen Elizabeth had been trying to stamp out the catholics as she was protestant. James I was also protestant.

    All of the people who plotted were catholics. they were all killed
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    It's disgusting the way catholics weren't tolerated and persucuted
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    It may be disgusting, but it the event happened at a time close to the hieght of Christian Fundamentalism. I think it was just starting to die down. Especially in France at this time. I forget the Edict Henri VII (I think) passed for tolerance, this is close to that time.

    All I know about Guy Fawkes is what I have just read and what my English teacher told us while reading "Hollow Men" by T.S. Eliot "Mista Kurtz, he dead/ A penny for old Guy"

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