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    He was a madman, but he also was a genius, not becouse he impaled he just was. Generally most madmen do have a sort of autistic genious.
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    who the hell is vlad the impaler? I went to the site on him that Mazdak had but it was about Bram Stroker's Dracula......
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    If you kept reading, you will see who he was. the first chapter was only an introduction. the second chapter(when they talked about the situation at the time)was kind of boring, but in the third chapter(the childhood of vlad)the story becomes more interesting, and from the fourth chapter(the first rule of vlad)the story become fascinating. in short, vlad the impaler was the real historical figure on which the story of dracula is based.

    Steadfast Realist, if he was such an idiot, how come he stopped a lot of turkish invasions, and managed to come to power three times?
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    Quote: from man in the red suit on 2:41 am on Dec. 19, 2002
    who the hell is vlad the impaler? I went to the site on him that Mazdak had but it was about Bram Stroker's Dracula......
    In short he was Romanian fascistic emperor. Mentaly fucked up also. NOT A GENIOUS, NOT A PERSON TO BE ADMIRED, NOT EVEAN A PERSON TO BE TALKED ABOUT.
    I don't find him intriguing either. If somebody find this intriguing, than he can also say that ruttles gladiotor fights were great to see... well you know what I mean.
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    Look, if he was such an idiot, how come he managed to come to power three times, and stop three turkish invasions? but i don't think Vlad proves that extreme authoritarianism works, because in the end he was overthrown and only two thousands soldiers stood for him. he was definitely not a man to be admired, but he is very interesting, and he was a military and political genius. and if he was such a retard, how come he spoke Romanian, Turkish, Latin and German?
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    But you know, i think there is one thing Vlad definitely prove: the backwardness of religion and it's terrible effect on our society. he ruled in the name of the catholic church and killed it's enemies. he definitely prove the backwardness of religion and it's terrible effect on our society.
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    hmm.....interesting....I think I will have to convert to catholicism now....
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    good old ND, always making the case for mass murderers so the more intelligent people can sit back and look at the dumbass making a fool out of himself.
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    Lefty, i did not say that he was genius in the good sense of the word. he was an evil genius. he knew how to manipulate power, and his military tactics were pretty modern for his time. he also knew lot's of languages. when i saw this thread i thought "oh no, Mazdak with his stupid obsession for blood again". but after i read that article i thought differently. and you can't deny that Vlad is a very interesting historical figure. i don't say any of his victimes deserved it, i am just saying that i am sorry for him as well for what happened to him in his youth, and that i don't see him as an idiot, but as an evil genius. he was a sick fascist bastard, but you can't deny he was a completely different person if it wasn't for the death of his family, the turkish prison, the starvation and the torture.
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    YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE REAL REASON WHY VLAD TZEPESH COMMITED THESE ACTIONS.HE WAS NOT A FASCIST,A MADAMN....SO ON..
    HE WAS A PATRIOT AND THE ONLY THING THAT HE TRIED TO DO WAS TO KEEP THIS AINCIENT COUNTRY FREE OF ANY FOREIGN DOMINATION...THE WAY HIS ANCESTERS STARTING WITH KING BUREBISTA...
    I AM A ROUMANIAN AND I KNOW WHAT HE WANTED TO FULFILL....
    HIS METHODS WERE ADEQUATE TO HIS TIMES...

    VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!
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    vlad had no tactics at all, he just impallated everybodyin some field, burn somestuff and let the turks shit theyr pants when they see that...there is no such thing as tactic or strategy, just spill someblood so thati can drink it....

    he got in power 3 timesbecause there was no pretender to the throne, he was the only stupideough to rule such kingdom, all due to the turks, turks he expelled by killing his own people.....

    soo i see a lot of friendship towards vlad because he was arrested, you say poorvlad, he was madbecause he was arrested, yet i dont seeanyonw saying poor Mao... yet Mao losthis kid and wife that wereshotby imperial guards, so vlad had a excuse to be mad? Bulshit, there is no excuse to extermination....


    and red warlock: 2 things, no caps, and keep your flamming nationalism out this conversation...
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    All caps posts are for the weak, Warlock...

    As disgusting a piece of human filth that the man undoubtedly was, I can't help but be interested by Vlad. True, nobody else in his era came close to living up to modern morality standards, but he went waaayyy past even the standards of the time.

    Such a man has to be considered interesting, certainly not admirable, but he intregues me greatly nonetheless.

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    im so glad your intregued Dhul Fiqar..hehe jk..but seriously what amazed and discuted me the most was the beginning of the debate when ND described this murderers ways as 'efficient'. im sorry but you must be seriously sick if you can look at a man like that and comment on his effiency. this man had no tactics...wipe out all opposition...i thought we were leftists and communists...in whatever forms the forms(socialism, marxism, leninism...ect). hitler has been called a genious constantly and repeatedly...that does not male me admire him or even take a interest in him...and about him being torchured as a child im sorry to be ruthless but people all over the world are beat by their fathers...many grow up in war fare and live through misery and personal pain...most do not grow up to be bloodthirsty freaks of nature...the guy was hit in the head too many times, thats all...theres a fine line between genious and insane..the guy passed it way early on..godamn, he passed it so much he erased the fucking line
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    I did not described him as efficient! Mazdak described him as such! Why does people always confuse my posts with other people posts? i just said that i feel sorry for him for what happened to him in his youth!
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    ohhhh thepoor litle noble kid.....

    oh fuck it he should have died in the dungeons... one less authoritarian ***** in the world.....

    and actually it wasnt considered his youth, by age 14 guys were alredy married and fighting... so he wasnt like molested in is very youth....
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    LoL this topic still going on.

    Vlad had rotten brains, that should be enough.
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    Right CCCP. Fuck Vlad, case is closed.
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    agreed....

    now lets talk somethinggood....

    like....

    uhhmmmmm


    sex?
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    HAHA your so original(sarcasm)...
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    Quote: from the anarchist on 2:17 am on Jan. 9, 2003
    vlad had no tactics at all, he just impallated everybodyin some field, burn somestuff and let the turks shit theyr pants when they see that...there is no such thing as tactic or strategy, just spill someblood so thati can drink it....

    ok, got it......no caps.
    it's not flamming nationalism, because Vlad Tzepesh is not a national symbol or pride, it's the truth..
    The informations you brought totally lack a scientific base...your speculations on this topic, relying probably on a few pages of crap history...
    and for your information Vlad came only 2 times to the throne...
    case closed, I don't want to argue with nobody on this subject.
    viva la revolucion!!

    he got in power 3 timesbecause there was no pretender to the throne, he was the only stupideough to rule such kingdom, all due to the turks, turks he expelled by killing his own people.....

    soo i see a lot of friendship towards vlad because he was arrested, you say poorvlad, he was madbecause he was arrested, yet i dont seeanyonw saying poor Mao... yet Mao losthis kid  and wife that wereshotby imperial guards, so vlad had a excuse to be mad? Bulshit, there is no excuse to extermination....


    and red warlock: 2 things, no caps, and keep your flamming nationalism out this conversation...

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