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  1. 25th October 2002, 01:58 #1
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    I have to do a 5 page report on Thomas Paine. I would like to know what you guys think of him. What do you know about him? I know he wrote contreversial books that critcized the British gov't and he also criticized religion. I need to know mostly about his actions during the american revolution not so much the french.
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  2. 25th October 2002, 04:38 #2
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    I admire Thomas Paine. My quote is from him, and my last avatar was him also. Well, about his life.

    His most known controversial pieces were: Common Sense 1776, the rights of man 1791, and the age of reason, not sure what year..

    He was very progressive for his time. He wanted equal rights for women and the abolition of slavery. among others.

    He went to America with friend Benjamin Franklin in 1774 and fought with the colonists in the War of independence. After that he released some work (The rights of man the most famous) that was an answer to the consevervative Burke's piece about revolution in france.

    in 1792 (-3? anybody?) he was indicted for treason and escaped to france. Where he took a seat after the fall of Robespierre.

    Ack, thats all i can think of now. Hope that was helpful.

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    I don't know very much about him besides the basics but I'm pretty sure his pamphlet Common Sense basically convinced the Americans to overthrow British rule.
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    my quote is from Age of Reason
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    What IHP said. If i am correct, he was from Britain and moved because he was a debtor there, or a failed businessman or something. His dad was a shoemaker or tailor, i believe. Also, he wrote Common Sense on the way from England to the U.S., and published it 4 days after he got here.
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    Can any of you give me a short argument disscussing the extent of which thomas paine can be considered a revolutionary figure? I have one argument already but i need a second.
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  7. 29th October 2002, 10:37 #7
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    well, what do you already have?

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    I wrote about the fact that he wasn't afraid of speaking out against valued things like religion and speaking out against established things like monarchies

    Maybe i should exclude the religous parts since it didn't affect the revolution

    By the way this about the American and not French revolution

    (Edited by timbaly at 9:50 pm on Oct. 30, 2002)


    (Edited by timbaly at 8:37 pm on Oct. 31, 2002)
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    I'm also doing a report on him. He's seems cool. Please tell us more!
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    ok for Len and Timbaly.

    You could write something like this.

    "Thomas Paine's radicalism fused a commitment to political liberty with a deep faith in popular sovereignty. He provided inspiration for both republicanism and socialist egalitarianism"

    And I also found out that he was a Quaker.

    Does that help?

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    ps. i can think of much about him regarding the war of independence, except that he fought for the Colonialists.
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    Paine was a bourgeois revolutionary but thats all he could have been thats as far free thinking went in that period. He is famous for defending the French revolution
    against the Aristocrats of England who shuddered at the terror.
    his most famous work is here
    His pamphlet on America is [url=http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/D/1776-1800/paine/AC/crisisxx.htm[/url]

    (Edited by peaccenicked at 3:01 am on Oct. 31, 2002)
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    Check out this website:

    http://www.tompaine.com

    It's a public interest journal founded on his principals.
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