i can get on the site but cant find the actual eyewitness account?, btw check your pm's cassius
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The following is a eyewitness account to the pro-Stalin demonstrations of the mid 1950's.
http.//revolutionarydemocracy.org/index.htm
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
i can get on the site but cant find the actual eyewitness account?, btw check your pm's cassius
\"Once more I could convince myself how terrible the capitalist octopuses are.
I swore on a picture of our old and bewailed comrade Stalin,
I swore not to rest before these capitalist octopuses are destroyed.\" Che Guevara
Oh dam, that was you. Sorry I accidently deleted it and just hoped that it would never be bought up again (in a kind of if you hide under the coats on the exam day then everything will be allright way). If you wan't to send whatever you sent please do, I'm pretty sure I know how to view the message's now.
Yeah so anyway I presume you found the main menu. From there just go to the September 1999 issue and you will find the article. If you know how to post the article here please do because it will go someway to harming the image of Stalin as a bloodthirsty dictator who forced people to like him.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
Can't find the article, but in response:
FUCK STALIN. He is a peace of shit. He had sexual relationships with farm animals. When the revolution broke out, he hid in the siberian forest until the dust settled. He was a wussy little *****, the only reason people followed his orders and liked him is because their lives were threatened. And he never carried out the acts of executions himself. He just hid in the Kremlin. We wasn't a communist, a socialist, or even a respectable human being. He was a retarded fascist. FUCK STALIN.
But wait, you said criticism of Stalin was not allowed!
I'm still breathing
<span style=\'color:red\'>Remember, if you duck and cover, you'll be incinerated in a crappy pose</span> -The Anarchist Prince
In town Cinemas, the mayor wud be watching the propaganda of stalin, and wud stand up and start clapping, if he say anyone NOT clapping, he would be removed from that room and tortured/killed/who knows what.
Good ol' Uncle Joe
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''Can't find the article, but in response''
Well that is a shame since judging by your very imformative, enlightening and obviously well researched post below you would of found it interesting.
''FUCK STALIN. He is a peace of shit. He had sexual relationships with farm animals.''
Do you have any evidence for this?
''When the revolution broke out, he hid in the siberian forest until the dust settled.''
No he returned to Petrograd straight away, he then procedded to play a crucial role in organising the Bolsheviks who were in Russia at the time. He wrote for Pravda and practically ran the Bolshevik Party till April when Lenin and co returned.
''He was a wussy little *****, the only reason people followed his orders and liked him is because their lives were threatened.''
This is just plainly wrong. 'Wussy little *****' what about Moscow in 1941? And the lifes of those in Georgia (and in Russia proper) who protested in his name were NOT threantened because Stalin had been dead for 4 years.
''And he never carried out the acts of executions himself. He just hid in the Kremlin. We wasn't a communist, a socialist, or even a respectable human being. He was a retarded fascist. FUCK STALIN.''
'Never carried the executions out himself' well ofcourse he didn't that was up to the people whose job it was to carry out executions. If he wasn't a Communists or Socialist why does he fight for the Bolsheviks from 1900? (if you ask me it is NOT a very good way to get oneself some power, oh but ofcourse he was working for the Okrahna). Why does he organise strikes and preach workers rights in Georgia? Why does he prevent the Bolsheviks from financial collapse in the years of 1905-17? The final sentence is not even worth responding to.
''But wait, you said criticism of Stalin was not allowed! I'm still breathing'
No this was the cry of those workers, students and peasants who oppossed Khruschev's accusations.
BTW TavareeshKamo apart from the Nazi Soljenstiyn do you have a reliable source for that?
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
my proof is a soviet film (ie made in Soviet Union) where it showed the horrors of stalinism killing true communists, and fear in villagers of Joe
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<span style=\'color:red\'>Proleteriat of the world unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>HandsOffVenezuela in solidarity with the Venezuelan workers and the Venezuelan Revolution</span>
If you mean 'Harvests of Sorrow' then that source is virtually useless since everybody who worked on the film has admitted that it was a complete fake. Those pictures that were real came from the Volga famine of 1921-22.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
Who said criticism had to be true?
Stalin made plenty of baseless accusations against his political opponents during the show trials. Doesn't mean they were true. It was just a matter of insulting his enemies and hurting them.
I know my accusations of Stalin are baseless, but it is a matter of insulting him, so I will say whatever I want as long as it clarifies that I don't like him.
And I'm sure that Stalin would do the same against his enemies.
(Edited by KickMcCann at 2:20 am on Oct. 2, 2002)
<span style=\'color:red\'>Remember, if you duck and cover, you'll be incinerated in a crappy pose</span> -The Anarchist Prince
So since you actually admit then that your accusations are rubbish can I ask what was the point of writing all of that? If you don't like Stalin, that's fine but why do you not explain the reasons why you don't like him with atleast a decent argument?
'Show trials' and 'Baseless accusations'. The first point is that if you criticise Stalin of 'Baseless accusations' surely then you are no better then how you portray him. Secondly Bukharin actually admitted to a French Communist (a pro-Bukharin supporter who held a high position in the Comintern) that he had disscussed 'The physical removal of Stalin'. He also admitted this to Kaganovich in a meeting in 1934.
As for Zioneve and Kamenev, the fact that the Assaination of Kirov was carried out by a man (Nikolayeav) who admitted he had been recruited by those two obviously puts a end to this 'Baseless accusations' rubbish.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
Stalin was probably the one of the most evil people of the twentieth century. The only credit I can attribute towards Stalin is that he was one of the most diabolical people I have ever read about. He had no strong political ideology. The only time he laid his beleif in a political system was when he was using it to gain power. He would side with the left when he needed to gain favour and the right in the other situation. He sent thousands of his own people to their grave just so he could stay in power. What did he give Russia? Nothing except for history.
big up your self
''Stalin was probably the one of the most evil people of the twentieth century.''
Why because your school book said so?
''The only credit I can attribute towards Stalin is that he was one of the most diabolical people I have ever read about.''
See above.
''He had no strong political ideology. The only time he laid his beleif in a political system was when he was using it to gain power.''
How precisly is joining the Bolsheviks (and then sticking with the Bolsheviks when they become even more isolated in 1907-8) in 1900 a way of gaining power?
''He would side with the left when he needed to gain favour and the right in the other situation.''
If you are talking about the internal party policies of the 1920's and 30's guess what. Stalin was elected and the united opposition of Trotsky, Kamenev, Zioneve got just 6,000 votes out of the 725,000 votes cast. I presume you are also talking about Bukharin the spilt between Bukharin's policy/opinions and Stalin's policy/opinion was to do with the 5 year plans and the struggle with the Kulaks.
Note this was (contray to what you are told) not the reason why he was bought to trial. The reasons for that are far more serious.
''He sent thousands of his own people to their grave just so he could stay in power.''
Just what bit of the archives do you not understand? 799,445 people died in the Soviet Prison system between 1934-53. This was for all reasons, such as a lack of modern medicines. And at no point were there more than 2.4% of the population in jail. The vast majority of these people happened to be criminalls, murderers, rapists etc, eg not very nice people.
''What did he give Russia? Nothing except for history.''
The people of Russia were entitled to free housing, education, health care, pensions for the elderly (unlike the current Russia), employment and most importantly FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY. If life was such a living hell then why do the current Russian Communists depend a great deal on those who grew up in 1930's, 1940', 1950's for votes?
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
I read his bio, written by Edvard Radvinsky, who is the first person to write a bio on Koba with access to documents from russia's secret archives, the same archives Stalin kept hidden for years, and are only now starting to emerge.
I won't get into a long drawn out argument, I am tired. But I think you are brainwashed beyond repair. Stalin was a master chess player (in terms of orchestrating his rise to power). He set up his former bosheviks and staged theatre productions out of their trials. Only to end up destroying all those that fought in the October revolution. How do you explain his wavering on the NEP policy with Lenin, only to abolish it and kill off the likes of Kamanev and Zinoviev? The man lied about everything only to perserve his image. He even lied about the death of his second wife.
big up your self
''I read his bio, written by Edvard Radvinsky, who is the first person to write a bio on Koba with access to documents from russia's secret archives, the same archives Stalin kept hidden for years, and are only now starting to emerge.''
And those archives clearly state that some 799,445 people died in the Soviet prison system between the early 1930's and 1953. Once again this is for all reasons such as suicide, natural deaths, illness (note the modern medicines), etc and finally those that were executed.
A man like Edward Radvinsky allegeses that 'Stalin killed three times as many as Hitler', this is what he said on the BBC so I presume this is what is sais in his book. You say he is the first historian to 'Have access to the documents from the secret archives' well they have been open (and not so 'Secret' yet the Western media strangely never reported on what they revealed) for 12 years. And they quite CLEARLY state that 799,445 people died and at no time were there more than 2.4% of the population in jail.
So how does Radvinsky come to the figure of 18 million (three times the amount who died in Holocaust)? Probably through the usual methods such as including war dead, including natural deaths (their death must of been politically related because otherwise the book won't sell) and using the same sources as Robert Conquest.
''I won't get into a long drawn out argument, I am tired.''
Same hear.
''But I think you are brainwashed beyond repair.''
Brainwashed by whom precisly? Certainly it couldn't of been by my education who told me repeatdly that Stalin murdered 30 million for no reason (like you are now) and how Trotsky was Lenin's only and natural successor. It could NOT of been the Trotskyites and others who try to say they are Marxists yet distance themselves from everything great acheived by the Soviet Union and actually spew out the same propaganda as the capatalists (dammed if I can tell the difference between a Trotskyite source and a Nazi one) both alledge the same old rubbish.
''Stalin was a master chess player (in terms of orchestrating his rise to power).''
Well if you say so.
''He set up his former bosheviks and staged theatre productions out of their trials. Only to end up destroying all those that fought in the October revolution. How do you explain his wavering on the NEP policy with Lenin, only to abolish it and kill off the likes of Kamanev and Zinoviev? The man lied about everything only to perserve his image. He even lied about the death of his second wife.''
Well first of all nearly the whole party was against the NEP but eventually Lenin convinced the party that it was a regrettable but neccassary policy to prevent people from starving. The retreat from the NEP (and the colletivisation and war against the Kulaks with it) was the first stage of constructing/building Socialism in the USSR.
'Kill of the likes of Zioneve and Kamenev'. How many times the evidence (and a court of law which found them guilty) clearly points to the fact that those two had had Kirov killed and had engaged in acts of terriorism and were prepared to restore Capatalism in the USSR just so they could get power. Power which had been taken away from them after they had lost the December 1927 elections.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
Is it not enough for you to demonize him for is public work, now you people are trying to falsify and dishonor his private life as well? Sex with farm animals. OH boy, i want to hear this. Back up your statement.
This reminds me of the "Lavrenti Beria is a pedaphile argument."
But I already said that I made it up, about the farm animals and what-not. I guess sarcasm and libel (or is it slander?) can only go so far.
But he did kill his wife, I think he drowned her. Officially she committed suicide (Who'd blame her?) but she was probably one of the many "comrades" who got in the way of Stalin.
(Edited by KickMcCann at 5:41 am on Oct. 3, 2002)
<span style=\'color:red\'>Remember, if you duck and cover, you'll be incinerated in a crappy pose</span> -The Anarchist Prince
He killed his wife! What are you talking about? The FACT is she committed suicide after a very public row with Stalin. You have NO evidence that he did yet you try to present it as fact.
Yes he may of been a bad husband, but he also may of been a GOOD husband. The fact is you have no way of telling, other than idle rumour. And you sound about as credible as the NAZIS who say it was the Jews who did 9/11.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
More propoganda. ROFLMAO. And they say we make up things to glorify him. He didnt kill his wife, as a matter a fact, what did he say when his first wife died, he was horribly upset.
Didn't his daughter Svetlana ran off with a man from India?
I read this somewhere.
Chasovy, no his daughter currently lives in Russia.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.