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From Women in War and Resistance, the story of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya,
who was brutally assaulted, raped and murdered by German soldiers, who
photographed themselves doing it of course. She was eighteen.
.. Born in Osinovyye Gai, Gavrilovskiy District/Tambov Region in a family of
village teachers, Zoya Kosmodem'yanskaya spent some time in Siberia with her
family and subsequently moved to Moscow in the early Thirties. Here
Kosmodem'yanskaya and her younger brother Shura attended School No.201. In
1938, she joined the Komsomol.
Kosmodem'yanskaya's childhood was happy. The parents had a good marriage and
the family was close and harmonious. The children grew up in a mentally
healthy atmosphere, though the family lived in a single room in a communal
apartment of a two-storey wooden house located on the outskirts of Moscow
near the Timiryazev Academy. where the father worked as a bookkeeper. After
he suddenly became ill and died in 1933, Kosmodem'yanskaya's mother found it
difficult to make ends meet on her salary of an elementary schoolteacher and
the children worked part-time to assist her. However, doing well in school
was the most important family objective.
Having matured early, Kosmodem'yanskaya was unusually diligent and
persistent in pursuing her goals and was contemptuous of weaknesses and
tears. Less gifted in mathematics than in literature, she read a great deal,
including both Russian and foreign classics. Pensive and impressionable, she
loved Russian literature and history passionately and was greatly inspired
by the books she read.
After the war broke out, Kosmodem'yanskaya, a tenth-grade high school
student, helped to extinguish the incendiary bombs that initially fell on
Moscow. Then she went to a collective farm to help bring in the har-vest.
According to her mother, she returned from the country considerably
transformed: preoccupied and reticent. Having volunteered for service behind
enemy lines, she received brief training and served in the famous Spetsnaz
Unit 9903 of the Western Front. She was to become one of the two female
Heroes of the Soviet Union of this unit. The other one was Yelena Kolesova
(see Kolesova), a leader of an all-female group. Before Kosmodem'yanskaya
left home to join her unit in October 1941, she wrote down in her notebook a
famous line from Hamlet: 'Adieu, adieu! Hamlet, remember me!" [Ghost to
Hamlet]
There were female soldiers in almost every reconnaissance and sabotage group
of Unit 9903. Kosmodem'yanskaya carried out her first mission behind enemy
lines in a group consisting of seven male and four female members, commanded
by M.N. Sokolov. The group crossed the front lines on 4 November 1941,
reconnoitring and destroying enemy communications in Shakhovskiy District.
Kosmodem'yanskaya and fellow partisan Klava Miloradova marched in an advance
party. The group carried out their operations by night and slept on the snow
in the forest by day, at times warming themselves by a campfire. They
stretched their five-day rations to two weeks, with Kosmodem'yanskaya
scrupulously sharing her food and water. The group returned safely, without
sustaining any losses.
On 17 November, Kosmodem'yanskaya sent her final letter to her mother. Soon
afterwards, on the night of 21 November, she again crossed the front lines,
by the village of Obukhovo near Naro-Fominsk, with a group composed of young
Komsomols. Already an experienced saboteur, again marching in an advance
party, she acted boldly and resolutely on this mission, her second, under
the leadership of Boris Kraynov.
After personally burning down several peasant houses occupied by the enemy
in the village of Petrishchevo (Vereya District/Moscow Region), and cutting
some telephone wires, Kosmodem'yanskaya returned to the village, in order to
set fire to a presumed storehouse (which turned out to be a cavalry stable).
She was caught in the act by a German sentry. Her captors led her to the
house of peasant Mariya lvanovna Sedova, where they undressed her and began
to interrogate her. Then she was taken to the HO located at the Voronins'
farmstead, where she was administered about two-hundred belt strokes, and
subsequently was moved to another peasant house owned by the Kulik family.
Beaten mercilessly, as well as forced to go outside in her underwear and
walk barefoot on the snow, her human dignity violated in every possible way,
she nevertheless failed to give out any information, including her real
name.
She was hanged on 29 November 1941, with the villagers in the area forced to
witness the terrible spectacle. Defiant and proud to the end, she appealed
to the villagers to fight the enemy mercilessly. Among other things, she
told them that she was happy to die for her people and that the enemy
couldn't kill them all. Her body remained hanging, abused and muti-lated by
enemy soldiers, until 1 January 1942, at which time permission was given to
bury her.
Initially, she was identified as "Tanya," the given name of a Civil War
heroine, Tanya Solomakha, whom she admired and who was killed by the White
Guards. Following the German retreat from Petrishchevo, the first to report
her story was Petr Lidov, a Pravda correspondent. His story titled "Tanya"
appeared on 27 January 1942. On 4 February Tanya's true identity was
established by her mother and fellow partisan Klava Miloradova, after the
body had been exhumed. It was stabbed through and through with bayonets,
with a piece of rope still attached to the neck, but the face was strangely
peaceful. Her mother found it impossible to convey in words what she had
learned from the expression on her daughter's face. She believed that it was
her daughter's tremendous zest for life which gave her strength to withstand
the tortures and die with dignity. Kosmodem'-yanskaya was re-buried at the
prestigious Novodevich'ye Cemetery in Moscow.
In the summer of 1943, a PoW captured in the fighting in Smolensk Region
turned out to be an NCO named Bauerlein, who had witnessed
Kosmodem'yanskaya's interrogation ordered by Lieutenant-Colonel Ru-derer,
commander of the 332nd Infantry Regiment/197th Infantry Division. According
to Lidov, Bauerlein said: "The youthful heroine... stayed firm. Betrayal was
alien to her.... She turned blue from the cold, her wounds bled, but she
didn't reveal anything." Several German snapshots of the execution were
taken from Bauerlein and further photographs of the event were found in a
small Silesian town in early 1945.
Two monuments commemorating Kosmodem'yanskaya's feat have been erected: one
on the Minsk Highway near Petrishchevo (where veterans, farmers,
schoolchildren and young soldiers gathered on her birthday to honour her
memory) and one at the lzmaylovskiy Park Metro Station. There was a memorial
plaque in the village of Petrishchevo, where she died. Kosmodem'yanskaya's
museums were set up in the schools she had attended. Schools, Young Pioneer
squads, city streets, ships and an asteroid were named after her.
What made her special was the way she died, rather than what she achieved.
(Other Soviet women, whether partisans or in the regular army, accomplished
much more than Kosmodem'yanskaya did and she was not the first partisan
heroine to die. For example, Liza Chaykina (see Chaykina) was executed one
week earlier.) However, as the enemy approached Moscow, Kosmodem'yanskaya's
deed provided an inspiration to Soviet troops and civilians alike while they
were coping with a desperate situation. Her picture was widely circulated
among the Soviet public. Her name was made famous as a symbol of the times,
epitomizing as it were the Soviet people's heroic self-sacrifice and
patriotic resistance, particularly the bravery of female partisans fighting
behind enemy lines. ...
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Storys like this apened during the Spanish civil war!
Poor Zoya...
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Shit thats brave. One stor I love is about a team footballers in Nazi occupied Russia. In order to show the racial superiotry of the Arayans, a match was played -- Russian prisoners against Nazi storm troopers. They were told on no uncertain terms to lose. But instead of allowing the Germans to win this victory, they played their hearts out, and beat the Germans 6 - Nil. They died for the honour of their country, gave their lives to expose the weakness of their oppressors.
Christ.
I once was blind, now I can see
the russians were just as bad when they marched on germany.
Eddie:An dog on an skateboard
that accidentally hangs itself
and then catches fire!
thats balantly wrong, Stalin gave orders to exterminate, and if they didnt comited crimes whe nthey advanced trough german lands they would be killed by theyr own troops, so they had to kill ni order to survive theyr own army, thats the rules on Stalins army! plus the defenders of Stalingrad were merciless murdered by stalin because he said they didnt defended Stalingrad as they should, stalin orders were simple! the same apened to german soldiers, they were simply brainwashed and forced to kill
This is complete rubbish, Stalin never gave any such order. As for the defenders of Stalingrad, those that survived were transfereed to other units simply to raise morale. Yes 3000 soldiers were shot by the NKVD, it is fair to say that probably 70% were guilty of nothing and their death was a tragedy. But remember this is WW2 and the Soviets were fighting for their very survival, that battle decided the fate of the world. This is also the 1940's and soldiers don't have the same rights they have today.
As for when Soviet troops entered Germany, it is nice to see that you all support stories which originally came from Nazi newsreels. Stalin gave orders to shoot any soldier who did not shoot Germans, please quote a source for this totally stupid claim. Oh rapes and atrocities were committed, but remember what the Nazis had done to the Soviet Union. Actually you probably don't know so I will tell you, they killed 25 million people. The soldiers who committed the atrocities were usually conscripts who had been let into the Red Army when their towns (and in a lot of cases Concentration and POW camps) were liberated. Imagine the fanatical hatred they must of felt, HG Wells once observed 'That if you push even the most civilised man far enough you will be confronted by the red hot eyes of a caveman'.
And any military historian will tell you that the first Red Army troops (the elite or better trained troops) to enter Berlin warned the German citizens what might be coming. And if Stalin's whole intention was to 'Exterminate' then why did the Red Army bring along enough food to prevent the Berliners from famine?
Your whole post is complete rubbish and a insult to all those Soviet soldiers that died fighting Nazism.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
you want proofs? here you have them "If Hitler wants a extermination war thats what he will get" joseph Stalin
Stalin did say this stalin did gave extermination orders to the red aarmy, Staloin was a bloody murder, Stalin was a son of a ***** !
Oh dear is that is the best you can come up with? Are you actually serious?
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
I am not really sure why I wasted my time finding this quote but I did.
'This war has been forced upon us, not by the German wokers, peasants and intellectuals whose sufferings we well understand, but by the clique of bloodthirsty Fascist rulers who have enslaved Frenchman, Czechs, Serbs and Poles' Molotov, Soviet Foriegn minister 1941.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
i dont trust any soviet minister that served Stalin! :P
The soccer team you wrote about uth1984 was not just prisoners, but the 1941 Dynamo Kiev team, they were killed after the match while wearing their team shirt.
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You are a fool.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
In a stalinist empire who is thy fool? he who denys his superiors, or he who trust them even if they assassinate in the name of the people?
'Stalinist Empire' good one, you sound like Ronald Reagen. Once again if Stalin's whole intention was to 'exterminate' the Germans why did the Red Army prevent the Berliners from starving to death in 1945? Your only evidence appears to be a extract from a speech in 1941 which you have taken completly out of context. You say that you do not trust any minister of Stalin's while you trust something Stalin himself said. I have given you a extract from a OFFICIAL Soviet government statement made which proves that Stalin never intended to do anything to the innocent German population.
Also I will quote from two Soviet newspapers in 1945. In a Red Star article the editor wrote 'just because the Germans oublicly raped our women, it does not mean we must do the same'. Also Pravda declared 'it is unwise and un-Marxist to think all Germans were Nazis, to be treated only as subhumans'.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
But the rapings did occur.
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I have not denied they took place, if you read my first in this thread you will see that. Merely I just tried to explain why the Rapes and atrocities of Germans happened.
'What is 11 million dollars compared to the love of 11 million Cubans' Felix Savon
''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
Yees, some atrocities, but nothing of the magnitude of what the Germans did. And the German people knew what was happening in the Eastern front, yet they didnt try to leave their country or protest or anythign of the sort. they just haqppily let it happen.
Maz is that your criteria for moral justification that 'its not as bad as what our enemies did.
Anarchist is right about the quote. I have sources for it, Stalingrad: The fateful siege 1942-1943 by Antony Beever
Plus it's in my signature.
Authority can sometimes justify itself.
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