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    Why is Ferdinand Magellan hailed as the first man to go round the world when

    1. He died in the Phillipines before he got round the world?

    2. There were more people in the 1 ship that survived than him even if he did make it?
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    He was the captain. He got the credit.
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    Moreover, he had the vision. It wasn't too many people that thought it was possible to circumnavigate the globe.
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    The same reasons that Hitler and Castro and Stalin and Che and Bush and Bob Marley and Jimi Hendrix and Micheal Manley and Saddam Hussein and Christopher Columbus and Roy Keane and Shaquille O'Neal and Spike Lee all get full credit from time to time for certain deeds which they were not fully 100% responsible for, but were probably the primary instigators of.........
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    There's even daubt about whether Cristopher Columbus even "discovered" America. The current thinking is that he went south because he knew America was there but didn't know how big it was. Then there's the strange person called "John Americ"
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    Well, we know that he didn't land in North America, but in fact came across islands in the carribean and even further south.
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    St. Brendan the Navigator sailed to Newfoundland in the 6th century. He was Irish. Good stuff. Columbus was a prick, and a damn blasted liar. He first landed on Jamaica, I think.

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    the first ones to dsicover and disembark in america were the vikings, and they called it "Vinland" yet they were scared with the natives (they believed they were possessed by some war god or something) and runed away form america so columbo dindt discovered nothing, besides we (portuguese) alredy knew the existence of another continent why do you think he was rejected by the portuguese king?
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    Quote: from canikickit on 1:06 am on Sep. 1, 2002

    He first landed on Jamaica, I think.
    No I dont think it was jamacia,It was like hispanola or san salvador.

    But our brendan got there first! lol
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    Quote: from Moskitto on 6:44 pm on Aug. 31, 2002
    There's even daubt about whether Cristopher Columbus even "discovered" America. The current thinking is that he went south because he knew America was there but didn't know how big it was. Then there's the strange person called "John Americ"
    Also, Amerigo Vespucci.
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    actaully, the phoenicians were probably the first to "discover" the new world. They are a noteworthy ancient european peoples. They built carthage and most of the Persian war vessels were phoenician.
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    George W. Bush discovered it , eh ? why is he the King then huh??
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    Quote: from Mazdak on 4:33 am on Sep. 3, 2002
    actaully, the phoenicians were probably the first to "discover" the new world. They are a noteworthy ancient european peoples. They built carthage and most of the Persian war vessels were phoenician.
    Evidence of this?
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    "Evidence of this?"

    Archaeologists found stones inscribed with phoenician writing in places like Kentucky. How did these stones get there? Obviously, someone, who was most likely Phoenician, brought their knowledge of Phoenician writing to America. They also think that some Native Americans are descendants of the Phoenicians. It is entirely possible because the Phoenicians were incredibly skilled sailors who were sailing around the Indian Ocean centuries before Europeans sent explorers there. It isn't much of a stretch to say they made it to North America, but it would have certainly been difficult.
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