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The Canadian Left think that negotiation and accommodation with the Taliban is far preferable to warfare:
This is the wrong mission for Canada
With leftists like these, who needs reactionaries? Pls. comment
I agree with Layton on few things, but I think that there has to be an alternative to war. What that alternative might be, I'm afraid I may not be educated enough on all the issues to suggest, but one thing is for certain, the war is not working.
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Firstly, the NDP is not "leftist." Second of all, what is your alternative? Imperialist occupation and warfare? Obviously the Taliban was an oppressive and reactionary government, but the reality is that the situation in Afghanistan has actually deteriorated since the war. Also, the idea that negotiating with someone is tantamount to supporting them is so ludicrous I don't even know where to begin.
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All the soldiers occupying Afghanistan deserve to die. Lets get real, these soldiers will never support a revolution so who needs them. I care about the poor people of Afghanistan and not a bunch of baby killers.
Baby terrorists?
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...fghan-raid.html
Fuck 'em both. What's RAWA up to these days?
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I second BBBG. Let's give big ups to RAWA and the marxist ALO.
I have no sympathy for the Taliban.
I would take great delight in ripping the beating heart out of one of those motherfucking mullahs chest.
Fuck them, I am no friend of a Taliban supporter even if they calim to be a comrad. Fuck the Taliban, fuck sympathyers.
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Please excuse my spelling, I suck ass at spelling. Sorry.
Believe it or not, you can read it.
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Which hardly makes them "comrades" of the Taliban. That's typically the cheap demagogy of the bourgeois right against bourgeois liberals and social democrats: If you're not for the war, you must be for whoever we're fighting against.
You could more accurately say they are "comrades" of those currently in office in Ottawa. They support Canada's deployment continuing in Afghanistan for at least some time longer - calling for negotiations.
Rather than "troops out now", which is of course the only principled communist position.
^^ yes its liberal but it still should be supported. Would you rather have troops gradually withdraw within the next couple of months or would you prefer an indefinite occupation?
Fuck the Kanadian soldiers, I hope the Taliban kills as many oKKKupants as possible.
Then I hope the Afghanistan people decide their own destiny.
If it's back to the Taliban, then so be it. But eventually, the Taliban will be overthrown. Nothing lasts for ever; that's basic dialectical and historical materialism.
Maaad props to RAWA!
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A coworker just lost a friend in Afghanistan.
many people who are there think they are doing it for good reasons.
Your a fuckin idiot marcel.
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It's unfortunate your coworkers friend died in Afghatistan, nonetheless smashing Imperialism does require breaking a few eggs.
A friend of a nazi occupier of France or the USSR might have said the same thing during WW2.
That's the way of the world, man. Which sucks.
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<span style=\'color:red\'>There is no retirement for guerrillas, just a change in battles - Cesar Montes</span>
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As a Canadian I see the Canadian Armed Forces as being Peacekeepers and us Canadians have a great reputation for that. However with this conflict in Afghanistan in my opinion is no longer a peacekepping mission because in other peacekeeping missions in other countries we have not lost as many soldiers as we have lost in afghanistan, something like 33 now or something. The Soldiers in Afghanistan are no longer peacekeeping as they were earlier in the mission, they are now occupying afghanistan amd ruining canada's reputation as peacekeepers.
Against brute force and injustice the People will have the last word, that of Victory. Che Guevara
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V from V for Vandetta
No one forced your coworker's friend to go there to fight. Fucking imperialist country workers can do just fine with Walmart jobs, the Afghan people are actually suffering, so kiss my ass.
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Great more anti-worker ultra-maoist rubbish.
And stop flaming.
Fight one battle at a time. The fight against Imperialism is one that is being fought now.
Creating more divisions in the leftist camp is not going to do us any good.
Then again, some people can not create short-term alliances, as they wish to take the moral high ground. <_<
<span style=\'color:red\'>Che : Shoot, coward. You are only going to kill a man".</span>
<span style=\'color:blue\'>Che : At the risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love.</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>Tupac : A coward dies a thousand deaths....a soldier dies but once.</span>
<span style=\'color:blue\'>Tupac : I believe that everything you do bad comes back to you. So everything that I do that's bad, I'm going to suffer for it. But in my heart, I believe what I'm doing is right. So i feel like I'm going to heaven.</span>
That's subjective
a lot of them might be poor kids trying to get some cash together to get through college
I despise the military, it's a tool of the state and occupying forces are the greatest dictators the world can see
That being said - a lot of people right now wouldn't support a revolution - that's our goal to show them the true nature of communism (i.e. good)... a revolution without popular support is a revolution I would not wish to be part of.
Fuck, if some dumbass decides to go to Afghanastan on his free will, then let him rot there!
That'll teach you about being a shit-eating dog for the imperialists. IT DOESN'T PAY!
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We shall be masters of all under heaven!
It's my own anecdotal evidence, the rightwing forums that I post on are replete with military, ex military posters. After "debating" with them I do not see any class consciousness in their posts. As far as supporting the troops, I support any and all attacks against American soldiers stationed abroad.
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Did your coworkers friend kill any babies?
