Disable People Rights

[R_P_A_S]

all my life since I could remember My mom sister. My aunt was in a wheel chair and with down syndrome. and it was so difficult in Mexico to get her around. there are no wheel chair ramps. buses have no access for them either and some stores there was no wheelchair access. sometimes we were descriminated by cab and bus drivers who wouldnt pick us up because of my aunt. on top of that the rude store clers and the thousands of stairs she used to get out in public.

as much as I hate the goverment of the United States I have to say they are great at giving people with dissabilities options. giving them the right to have closer parking spots, wheel chair ramps and even busses have hyrdrolic ramps to pick up people liek this. WOW!

why do you think countries like mexico are not like this? i dont noticed the stares and the finger pointing in the states when theres a person with down syndrome on the streets as much as I used to see this in Mexico...

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I wager because Mexico is poor

[which doctor]

I have a disability.

People don't take it into consideration when I'm asked to do or say certain things.

It sucks.

[TC]

Theres nothing "wow" worth about the US on that issue it is the same in other industrialized nations; poor countries that have fewer resources to add the more expensive features required for people who can't go up and down steps don't have the money its as simple as that.

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by TragicClown@Sep 4 2006, 10:07 PM
Theres nothing "wow" worth about the US on that issue it is the same in other industrialized nations; poor countries that have fewer resources to add the more expensive features required for people who can't go up and down steps don't have the money its as simple as that.

yeah but what about the staring eyes? i hated that. kids i can understand but parents would too. i noticed when i moved to the states that kids and parents were far more discrete about pointing or staring at a handicap person. my aunt ofcourse with the wheel chair and having down syndrom does not look like us. so yes in mexico she drew lots of fucked up stares and finger pointing. I seen similar people here in the malls and streets an no one stares or points.

My mother and her younger sisters were the ones who decided to get her a wheel chair as opposed my grandparents theory of "she is un able to do anything for her self so just let her lay there" my mother took her traveling and treated her to things we "normal" people do. despite the difficulty in mexico and the ignorant finger pointing.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

My mother and her younger sisters were the ones who decided to get her a wheel chair as opposed my grandparents theory of "she is un able to do anything for her self so just let her lay there" my mother took her traveling and treated her to things we "normal" people do. despite the difficulty in mexico and the ignorant finger pointing.

Good for your mother. It's important that people with visable disabilities aren't treated as something shameful to be hidden from the world (of course I'm not saying this was the way your grandparents thought but I know people who do have that attitude).

As for the staring, the majority of people have a comfort zone where people are relatively healthy so when they see someone who isn't, it's a curiosity.

[Postteen]

Disable people should be called people with special talents.Because I know many of them who cant walk, see or talk but they can draw, sing or write amazingly!

[TC]

Originally posted by Beatle Kat@Sep 5 2006, 01:00 PM
Disable people should be called people with special talents.Because I know many of them who cant walk, see or talk but they can draw, sing or write amazingly!

lol so a population of people should be sterotyped by your experiance with a few individuals among them?

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Originally posted by TragicClown+Sep 5 2006, 03:19 PM--> (TragicClown @ Sep 5 2006, 03:19 PM)

Beatle Kat

@Sep 5 2006, 01:00 PM
Disable people should be called people with special talents.Because I know many of them who cant walk, see or talk but they can draw, sing or write amazingly!

lol so a population of people should be sterotyped by your experiance with a few individuals among them? [/b]

Unfortunately, it happens. At least Beatle Kat's take on stereotyping (which I'm not sure she means to do) is positive.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I am very surprised that Mexico doesn't have a policy of requiring parking spaces, wheelchair access, and other basic features for disabled people. Brazil is actually poorer than Mexico, but we have these things, however the enforcement of such features is likely restricted to wealthier urban areas.

[razboz]

Im not sure about individual family units, b ut by and large families in mexico, (mine at least and everyone i know over there) are pretty tightly knight. Most of the time poeple are expected by the authorities to take care of their own. Like in the case of your family R P A S. i have family who are extremely sick, or were at one point and the hospitals expected us to take care of them and bring them home. imnot saying that this is a good thing. In some cases it can be disastreous, like when somone has no more family and they have to live on the street and i suppose eventually die. In mexico disabled people with no support live on the street in awfull conditions. Ive seen the shuffling around on their hands, or sitting on the curb looking straight ahead and jingling their cup or whatever in the wild hope somone will give them some money. however in my family some distant relation had a very severe form of autism (im not sure he was never diagnosed) and they baught a little shop for him which sold pretty much nothing but kept him occupied for long hours.

I think what im saying is that in mexico the family is expected to deal with this and many other problem the government deals with in other places.

[R_P_A_S]

well i just find people in the U.S. more open and compasionate to these people than in mexico. mean i seen kids with downsyndrome working at the grocery stores. no way in hell they would allow that in mexico.

and also the whole culture is different. here you can see a deformed person in a wheelchair crusin around the mall and people will not make it obvious to look or make comments. but in Mexico they are rude and the fucking kids are the worst. some adults too..

[Postteen]

Originally posted by Sir Aunty Christ+Sep 5 2006, 04:26 PM--> (Sir Aunty Christ @ Sep 5 2006, 04:26 PM)

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 03:19 PM

Beatle Kat

@Sep 5 2006, 01:00 PM
Disable people should be called people with special talents.Because I know many of them who cant walk, see or talk but they can draw, sing or write amazingly!

lol so a population of people should be sterotyped by your experiance with a few individuals among them?

Unfortunately, it happens. At least Beatle Kat's take on stereotyping (which I'm not sure she means to do) is positive. [/b]

It's as stereotyping as calling them people with special needs.I've read quite a lot about that, and it's more about the way we call them.I pointed out the term we use to reffer to them more than their (in)abilties.It's more about their own psychology.Because no matter how we call them it'll be discriminative from the other people.So at least let's change the term and use a positive one.

[Darth Revan]

Mexico isn't poor the people that live in the country are poor its has a Gross domestic product of 1.073 trillion dollar the 13th largest in the world

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

The gross domestic product of Mexico relative to its population (per capita) puts it at number 64 in the world rank... among really poor fuck countries

[razboz]

Originally posted by RedZeppelin@Sep 6 2006, 05:37 PM
The gross domestic product of Mexico relative to its population (per capita) puts it at number 64 in the world rank... among really poor fuck countries

Im not trying to make a point here but what does poor fuck actually mean? Does that mean mexico is poor? Thats true. not all mexicans are poor though. Look at carlos slim richest man in latin america. but mexico is indeed poor. its a sad fact that some polticians (Obrador te estoy mirando) take advantage of this.

[Red Menace]

Originally posted by R_P_A_S@Sep 5 2006, 04:17 PM
well i just find people in the U.S. more open and compasionate to these people than in mexico. mean i seen kids with downsyndrome working at the grocery stores. no way in hell they would allow that in mexico.

and also the whole culture is different. here you can see a deformed person in a wheelchair crusin around the mall and people will not make it obvious to look or make comments. but in Mexico they are rude and the fucking kids are the worst. some adults too..

Well, I think the U.S is more liberal when it comes to that sort of thing. There are the occasional stares but very few. but that took time. It wasn't always like that. The U.S is also more liberal towards homosexuals *not really* but more liberal then some countries. I can't really explain why it is that way though.