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    This really annoys me. How much more misleading can you make a few statistics? I'd expect this to come from the daily mail or something, but it was the telegraph.

    I want to hear your feedback. :angry:

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    this is ridiculous

    those white people thinking the robbery was racially motivated cuz the robber was black are most likely racist themselves.
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    Originally posted by NewKindOfSoldier@Aug 7 2006, 05:41 PM
    this is ridiculous

    those white people thinking the robbery was racially motivated cuz the robber was black are most likely racist themselves.
    Well, not necessarily.

    Technically, I am a "white race-victim" When I got assaulted by a nazi, the pigs put my assault down as being "racially motivated" in my statement I put down my ethnicity. -

    The point is, this article is so ridiculously hyperbolic. And as I said, misleading. They ought to do an article on how most victims of capitalism are proles
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    Whiute people are discriminated against all the time, and no one gives a shit. Cracker and Honkey or however you spell it are perfectly acceptable. Pukass white boy doesnt piss anyone off. But nigger, spick, wetback, and shit like that brings the whole tower falling down on top of the one who uttered them. I don't mean to imply that its ok for white people to be racist. I think racism is stupid. People should see the beauty in the contrast between races religions and cultures, and forget these words of hate, or at least their meaning. My point is that people don't care when whites are discriminated agaisnt because they're in the majority in America. Well, not in California. And what happens when we become a minority? Still no one will give a shit about us ansd we'll still be afraid to do or say anything about it. Why can't people just see the positives in the contrast between different ethnicities instead of being niggers* about it?

    *Nigger = ignorant motherfucker by original definition.
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    Yeah, I love the way they say there are more white victims and then admit a few paragraphs in that its because there are more whites than of any other group!

    Might also be worth pointing out that a lot of the white complaints will have been due to racial abuse between whites. Especially as it was from a survey so what counts as racial abuse will have been a self definition (e.g. if a Scot complained that he was racially abused by an English person that would count, even though they are technically the same race).
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    *Nigger = ignorant motherfucker by original definition.
    'nigger' is a term used to designate a white power over Afro-Americans. It means 'ignorant' only in so far as 'Hey, I'm smarter than you boy, because I'm white'.
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    Whiute people are discriminated against all the time, and no one gives a shit.

    Yeah, whites have it pretty bad!

    How exactly are whites discriminated against?

    They face structural discrimination?

    They get harrassed by the cops coz they're white?

    Arrested coz they're white?

    Beaten by the cops coz they're white?

    They're more likely to be given prison sentences coz they're white?

    Get denied job opportunities coz they're white?

    More likely to get a shit education?

    To be born poor?

    Stay poor?

    Be denied housing?

    They face the threat of organised violence from 'non-white' racist groups?


    Or by 'discrimination' do you mean, that sometimes white people get called names like cracker? Words that have little to no impact.

    Originally posted by RedWhite+--> (RedWhite)
    Cracker and Honkey or however you spell it are perfectly acceptable. [/b]


    Those words have nothing even distantly approaching the historical-contemporary baggage as, racial slurs used against 'non-white' people - precisely because whites in the US historically have been the oppressor, the ones with power, not a disempowered, 'racially' oppressed group.

    Originally posted by RedWhite+--> (RedWhite)
    Pukass white boy doesnt piss anyone off. [/b]


    Not even many white people, because whites (with the exception of white nationalist wackjobs) don't feel oppressed as a 'race' - clearly because they are not.

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    But nigger, spick, wetback, and shit like that brings the whole tower falling down on top of the one who uttered them.
    And rightly so!

    Words like 'nigger' and 'cracker' are not comparable.

    One is directed at an historically oppressed group, and is used by the historical oppressor to insult and degrade. The other is a term used by the oppressed, and has its roots in the slave plantations, the 'cracker' as in the master who cracked the whip.

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    Still no one will give a shit about us ansd we'll still be afraid to do or say anything about it.
    Yeah, white people have it so hard

    Nigger = ignorant motherfucker by original definition.
    Please do not use racist language on the board, it doesnt matter how you choose to define it.
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    If someone said something that was "insulting" to me by calling me a white racist name, would I be offended or upset?

    No I wouldn't, I would just think that the person saying it was a twat and ignore him.

    Some twat called my black friend a nigger a month or so ago as he was walking around the street and he also wasnt offended, he just laughed and carried on his way.
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    Originally posted by RedWhite@Aug 7 2006, 06:45 PM
    Whiute people are discriminated against all the time, and no one gives a shit. Cracker and Honkey or however you spell it are perfectly acceptable. Pukass white boy doesnt piss anyone off. But nigger, spick, wetback, and shit like that brings the whole tower falling down on top of the one who uttered them. I don't mean to imply that its ok for white people to be racist. I think racism is stupid. People should see the beauty in the contrast between races religions and cultures, and forget these words of hate, or at least their meaning. My point is that people don't care when whites are discriminated agaisnt because they're in the majority in America. Well, not in California. And what happens when we become a minority? Still no one will give a shit about us ansd we'll still be afraid to do or say anything about it. Why can't people just see the positives in the contrast between different ethnicities instead of being niggers* about it?

    *Nigger = ignorant motherfucker by original definition.
    Nigger does not mean ignorant mother fucker...its a word to call black people ignorant motherfuckers, and it was origninally meant to mean black.

    Negro means black in latin languages. the portugese began slavery.
    some white person said it with an R at the end later on in history....
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    Whiute people are discriminated against all the time, and no one gives a shit. Cracker and Honkey or however you spell it are perfectly acceptable. Pukass white boy doesnt piss anyone off. But nigger, spick, wetback, and shit like that brings the whole tower falling down on top of the one who uttered them. I don't mean to imply that its ok for white people to be racist. I think racism is stupid. People should see the beauty in the contrast between races religions and cultures, and forget these words of hate, or at least their meaning. My point is that people don't care when whites are discriminated agaisnt because they're in the majority in America. Well, not in California. And what happens when we become a minority? Still no one will give a shit about us ansd we'll still be afraid to do or say anything about it. Why can't people just see the positives in the contrast between different ethnicities instead of being niggers* about it?
    Yeah, white people are SOOOOOOOO oppressed. Learning about your privilege would do you some good. Of course, I say that on the mere assumption that you're white, but I think I'm pretty correct based on your comment.
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    I just want to point out that the structures for reporting racially motivated violence are themselves overwhelmingly white, which means that white people have greater access to them, and generally feel more comfortable accessing them than Black people.

    Anyway, this discussion reminded me of this article in Indymedia, about how the law essentially serves those who are already in power in society, while further victimising those who are marginalised.

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    Originally posted by RedWhite@Aug 7 2006, 06:45 PM
    *Nigger = ignorant motherfucker by original definition.
    I hope you get banned...in the mean time here's this little ditty...

    From the time of the Atlantic slave trade to the 1960s, it was a standard, casual English term for black people. The word later became associated with an overt contempt, a racist assumption of black inherent inferiority, even of bestiality, making it extremely pejorative, and is now almost universally considered to be extremely vulgar.

    The word Negro stems from the Latin word Niger, meaning black. In English, negro or neger became negar and finally nigger, most likely under influence of French nègre. Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the New York City African Burial Ground was originally known as "Begraaf Plaats van de Neger."

    In the United States, the word nigger was not originally considered derogatory, but merely denotative of black, as it was in much of the world. In nineteenth-century American literature, there are many uses of the word nigger with no intended negative connotation (see below). The perception of the term nigger as derogatory is no doubt related to the fact that the Negro race itself was widely regarded as inferior, lazy, simian-like in appearance, stupid, and criminally inclined by many whites of the time. There is an observable pattern of terms denoting black people which have come to be regarded as derogatory, just as exist for all ethnic groups. Some well known ones are: Nigger, darky, coon, Spooks, and colored, all of which were at various times acceptable, but are now considered offensive in North America. Black was generally the preferred term from the late 1960s until the 1990s, but has now been displaced in politically correct usage by African American, which resembles the term Afro-American that was in vogue in the early 1970s. Consequently, Black continues in widespread popular use as a racial designation.

    In Cuba the Spanish word prieto (similar origin to the Portuguese preto) is not derogatory. In Cuba a prieto is someone who is very dark, but not black ("Negro"). The Spanish word for "black" is "negro" (nay-gro). White Southern dialect in many parts of the southern United States changes the pronunciation of "Negro" (nee-grow) to "nigra" (nih-gruh). The form "nigger" may have come about from "nigra" through metathesis.


    In the past, nigger was sometimes used as a synonym for "defect". For example, the May 1886 issue of Scientific American, page 308 said, "The consequence of neglect might be that what the workmen call ‘a nigger’ would get into the armature, and burn it so as to destroy its service". Similarly, when performing shoddy but functional work, one is said to "nigger rig it", especially when duct tape is used in place of proper equipment.


    Man, the history of the word...enjoy...

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