Welcome on the board, comrade.
You're right Africa gets not enough attention.
But I doubt if Africa would be the place where the revolution will break out.
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Revolutionary Greetings,
This is my first post on this message board. A comrade of mine recommended I come check it out. I am a member of the All-African People's Revolutionary Party (A-APRP). One of the things I notice when reading various periodicals, papers and magazines from many of the socialist/communist organizations is a lack of adequit representation regarding the class struggle in Africa and amoungst African people throught the African diaspora. No one can shoulder the responcibility of the African Liberation Struggle except Africans themselves, so being an African born in amerikkka (what some would mistakenly refer to as "Black" or an African-amerikkkan) hopefully I can expound more in this area as we dialouge on this message board because WITHOUT A DOUBT, Africa is on the move...and she is moving toward socialism. The All-African People's Revolutionary Party (A-APRP) seeks as it's objective, "Pan-Africanism." Pan-Africanism as defined in the 5th Pan-African Congress held in London, England 1945 is "The total liberation and unification of Africa under scientific socialism." We are a socialist/communist party. With that being said, I just wanted to greet you all and I am looking forward to engaging in some interesting dialouge with you all in the near future.
ready for the REVOLUTION!!!
R.A.
"we don't want a piece of the amerikkkan pie....we want to BURN IT TO THE CRUST"--Kwame Ture
WHO IS KWAME TURE???:
http://www.thetalkingdrum.com/kwame.html
Welcome on the board, comrade.
You're right Africa gets not enough attention.
But I doubt if Africa would be the place where the revolution will break out.
Let no one charge that socialists have arrayed class against class in this struggle. That has been done long since in the evolution of capitalist society. One class is small and rich and the other large and poor....One consists of capitalists and the other of workers. These two classes are at war. Every day of peace is at the expense of labor. There can be no peace and good will between these two essentially antagonistic economic classes. - Debs
Welcome to the board, comrade. A few days ago there was posted here a transcript of a speech made by a member of the IRSP for African Liberation Day.
You can read it here.
I wish your movement the best of luck in the future.
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“There are no boundaries in this struggle to the death. We cannot be indifferent to what happens anywhere in the world, for a victory by any country over imperialism is our victory; just as any country's defeat is a defeat for all of us.” – Che Guevara
“We still believe that the struggle of Ireland for freedom is a part of the world-wide upward movement of the toilers of the earth, and we still believe that the emancipation of the working class carries within it the end of all tyranny – national, political and social.” – James Connolly
Welcome, comrade!
You make an excellent point about the African socialist movements being ignored, but unfortunately I think it extends to all issues. The prevailing discourse seems to be to basically ignore Africa, it seems to have been written off as a "failed continent" by most people in the West, when they're actually using Euro-centric standards to measure their "success" in building a government.
Just look at Rwanda and the DRC, both going to hell and back while the world sits by and looks at the pictures on TV. Then two buildings get blown up and the whole world comes to a stop, and all the sudden SOMETHING MUST BE DONE, SEND THE ARMY!
Fucking hypocrites, how many thousands of people had to die and suffer horrible conditions in Africa without even a firecracker being thrown on behalf of the international community?
I think the key to getting people to care again is to re-humanize the average African through the media and probably the best way to do that is through people like yourself. Africans who were stolen from their homeland now have a chance to give something back, and I think it's a very laudible effort on your part!
Like Peter tosh said, "Don't care where ya come from, as long as you're a black man, you are an African!"
Peace,
--- G.
A little poison now and then: that maketh pleasant dreams. And much poison at last for a pleasant death
- from Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche's 'Thus Spake Zarathustra'
Good to see you've come here as well RA, you probubly remember me from the DP.net board.
I agree with you, but I must admit my knowledge of the African Socialist movement is pretty low. Besides A-APRP I can't say I'm to aware of most of the Leftist Parties in African politics, and even more so the only country who I'm actually aware of politically is Kenya, and does FORD count as a leftist party?
2006 Still Under Occupation!
You can't get any movement larger than five people without including at least one fucking idiot.
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Whooo, when I saw the title I thought he was talking about the group MOVE because all their last names are Africa.
Nevermind
Anyway, looking foward to what you have to say and welcome.
>>Welcome on the board, comrade.<<
Thanks!
>>I doubt if Africa would be the place where the revolution will break<< out.<<
There will be revolution in Africa. Doubt it if you want *smile.*
Yo Ciaran B,
Thank you very much for your support. I just picked up a book called
"For the Cause of Liberty: A Thousand Years of Ireland's Heroes" by Terry Golway. Also, I gotta give you props for that James Connolly quote.
>>Just look at Rwanda and the DRC, both going to hell and back while the world sits by and looks at the pictures on TV.<<
Lets not forget that the united snakkkes are sending peace keeping troops into the DRC, RIGHT NOW!!!. But of course those troops aren't going to prevent any conflicts (Just like the "patty rollers" don't prevent conflicts in the ghetto) . In fact, the only "peace keeping" they are gonna do is "keep" a big ass "piece" of foreign investment for the Imperialists.
Thank you for the warm welcome. Palestine MUST BE FREE!!!
>>Good to see you've come here as well RA, you probubly remember me from the DP.net board.<<
I do remember you. Good to see you here!!!
>>I agree with you, but I must admit my knowledge of the African Socialist movement is pretty low. Besides A-APRP I can't say I'm to aware of most of the Leftist Parties in African politics, and even more so the only country who I'm actually aware of politically is Kenya, and does FORD count as a leftist party?<<
I never heard of FORD...unless you mean the racist, capitalist automobile manufacturer. In my opinion, when studying the African socialist movement, the most important organizations to study are the P.D.G. of Guinea, and the C.P.P. of Ghana.
>>Whooo, when I saw the title I thought he was talking about the group MOVE because all their last names are Africa.<<
Naaaah...he's talking about the continent of Africa *smile*
Again, thank you all for the warm welcome and positive dialouge.
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"we don't want a piece of the amerikkkan pie....we want to BURN IT TO THE CRUST"--Kwame Ture
WHO IS KWAME TURE???:
http://www.thetalkingdrum.com/kwame.html
Welcome rebelafrika.
I'll be very interested in what you have to say.I lived for a few years in Kenya as a child.As I was quite young(8-11yrs)at the time,I was politically unaware.As you say,africa is not well represented in the western(UK for me) press,and then it is usually only negative.
I hope you enjoy it here.
Umoja
You said your political interest was mainly Kenya.Just out of interest,what's the connection?
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"I'd rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don't want, and get it."
Via Workers World News Service
Reprinted from the June 5, 2003
issue of Workers World newspaper
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BROOKLYN CELEBRATES AFRICAN LIBERATION DAY: "NO RE-
COLONIZATION OF AFRICA! HANDS OFF ZIMBABWE!"
By Pat Chin
Brooklyn, N.Y.
Cries of "No re-colonization of Africa! Hands off Zimbabwe!" rang out in
the streets here May 24 in celebration of African Liberation Day.
The activity, which started with a long march from Bedford-Stuyvesant to
the sound of drums, was a loud and spirited protest against U.S. and
British imperialist designs to re-colonize Africa as it has done with
the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and now Iraq.
The marchers, who carried banners and the red, green and black flag of
the Black liberation movement, were warmly and enthusiastically received
in each community they traversed.
Demonstrators called for a fight against Washington's and London's
attempt to oust the government of President Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe.
Mugabe was one of the leaders of the liberation movements in Zimbabwe
that drove the British colonizers from power in the 1970s. Much of the
most fertile land remained owned by the white racist colonial settler
class and the Black majority remains mired in poverty.
Britain has reneged on a promise to compensate white farmers for lands
the farmers stole in the first place. But when the Mugabe
administration, decades later, finally seized these lands for Black
farmers, an imperialist campaign to demonize and destabilize Mugabe's
government was unleashed by the United States and Britain.
The ALD activity, which included a delegation from the group Labor
Against the War, was organized by the African Liberation Day Coalition
2003. Endorsers include the December 12th Movement, the All-African
People's Revolutionary Party, Pan African Liberation Movement, Haiti
Support Network, Black Vets for Social Justice, Bedford-Stuyvesant
Coalition for Peace, African Poetry Theatre, Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, Friends of Zimbabwe, National Conference of Black Lawyers, New
York ANSWER, Harlem Anti-War Coalition, Korea Truth Commission,
Workers
World Party and others.
At the march, and at the rally at the House of the Lord church,
activists also called for reparations for the trans-Atlantic slave
trade; to deepen the ties of communication among Africans worldwide; to
continue the struggle against the occupation of Iraq; and for solidarity
with Cuba, Venezuela, Haiti and North Korea. The Palestinian people's
liberation struggle was also hailed.
Participants pledged to revitalize the long tradition of annually
celebrating African Liberation Day. ALD initially took place as "African
Freedom Day" at the first organized conference on African independence
held in Ghana at a 1958 conference of Pan-African leaders working for
the unification of Africa under socialism.
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“There are no boundaries in this struggle to the death. We cannot be indifferent to what happens anywhere in the world, for a victory by any country over imperialism is our victory; just as any country's defeat is a defeat for all of us.” – Che Guevara
“We still believe that the struggle of Ireland for freedom is a part of the world-wide upward movement of the toilers of the earth, and we still believe that the emancipation of the working class carries within it the end of all tyranny – national, political and social.” – James Connolly
just like to say that africa is always overlooked. as hegel said, the sun passes over the world, and so every part has its limelight. its gone east, from asia, to europe, now to the u$. africa has never got some of this "sunlight".
hope you all understand what i mean.
read towards the african revolution by fanon, it has an insight into thosedays africa, and is relevant now. was interested to read that some wanted a united african states. can you see that happening? i doubt it with all the inner state violence we see in congo.
"Speak not of revolution until you are willing to eat rats to survive" The Last Poets
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Welcome my friend.
aftrica definetly is a very important part in the world revolution
ex NFR
Scargill, I don't know why I have an interest in Kenya. And actually when I was looking on the Internet, Kenya's new ruling Party (National Alliance Rainbow Coalition) was classified as Leftist, weird.
2006 Still Under Occupation!
You can't get any movement larger than five people without including at least one fucking idiot.
-<span style=\'color:green\'>Green</span> Mars
Welcome comrade!
Africa is a key member of world revolution your fight is our fight!
Muere lentamente quien no viaja,
quien no lee,
quien no escucha música,
quien no halla encanto en sí mismo.
Muere lentamente
quien destruye su amor propio;
quien no se deja ayudar.
RebelAfrika are you on the Dead Prez msg board?
If so I always see you there, I cant remember if I have typed there or not.
Welcome.
give us an organisation or revolutionaries and we will overturn capitalism
To Son of Scargill: Thanks for the welcome. Hopefully I will be traveling to Kenya next year around this time. My swahili teacher repatriated from amerikkka 27 years ago and he has lived in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. He just recently came back to deal with family matters and he is teaching swahili on the side while he is here.
To CiaranB: Thanks for that news article. My chapter of the A-APRP hasn't had a chance to have our "ALD assesment" yet so I didn't know what activities the N.Y. Chapter (or any other chapter) had going on, but now I do *smile.*
To King Bee: You said >>was interested to read that some wanted a united african states. can you see that happening? i doubt it with all the inner state violence we see in congo.<< To answer your question, yes I can see a United Socialist States of Africa happening. In fact, we (The A-APRP) are actively working towards this objective, with world wide communism being the ultimate goal. We know that it is possible for Africa to achieve Pan-Africanism simply by taking a cursory glance at the history of Africa. Anyone knowing anything about African history cannot deny that the social evolution (developement) in Africa was moving from smaller social aggregates to larger social aggregates, before this process was brutally interupted by Colonialism and Slavery. In otherwords, Africans were going from "families," to "clans," to "tribes," to "Nation-States." Because of the violent disruption of Africa's "evolutionary" growth process, it now has to undergo a "revolutionary" growth process which will be equally violent (For every action, there is an equal and opposite "reaction" ). This is what we are seeing in Africa today. The internal turmoil in Africa is reflective of a lack in ideological clarity. This is a MAJOR obsticle Africa must overcome, but it is not impossible...especially given some of the other aspects of struggle Africans have faced in the past and must face today.
To Comrade Mathew: Thanks!!!
To Guardia Bolivariano: Thank you for showing revolutionary solidarity!!!
To nzrevolution: It is "I" says "me" *smile*
(Edited by rebelafrika at 8:19 am on June 2, 2003)
(Edited by rebelafrika at 8:22 am on June 2, 2003)
"we don't want a piece of the amerikkkan pie....we want to BURN IT TO THE CRUST"--Kwame Ture
WHO IS KWAME TURE???:
http://www.thetalkingdrum.com/kwame.html
I totally agree with the revolution in Afrika. I myself live in Holland. I do agree that Africans gotte fight for africa themselves, but they should be open for help. I'm gonne live down in Afrika after my study. Politics in Afrika are so much better than in Europe.
Viva Angola, viva SACP, viva ANC!!
Good luck to you sir.
I read an article(somewhere on this forum) from "marxist.com". "prospects of a world revolution" if someone recognize it please post link. In that essay they talked alot of possible revolutions in Africa!
Fight on, brother!
\"What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others\"
Confucius
Welcome rebelafrika,
You are right. We need to focus alot on Africa. We are all from Africa even the white people.
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