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    give me some reasons becose i can't find my words when I'm debating with my teatcher

    sorry for my bad english
    We consider that the Cuban Revolution contributed three fundamental lessons to the conduct of revolutionary movements in America. They are:
    1. Popular forces can win a war against the army.
    2. It is not necessary to wait until all conditions for making revolution exist; the insurrection can create them.
    3. In underdeveloped America the countryside is the basic area for armed fighting.
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    You already know it`s good, you just don`t know why yet. I can`t help but smile.
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    dja I can see that it works but i dont know why .
    the teatcher says that there can be dictatorship
    if only one person has the power but I wana convince my clasmates and maybe my brainwashed teatcher.....
    but how.... cuba's economie is fine only the presure of the u$ is a problem .
    We consider that the Cuban Revolution contributed three fundamental lessons to the conduct of revolutionary movements in America. They are:
    1. Popular forces can win a war against the army.
    2. It is not necessary to wait until all conditions for making revolution exist; the insurrection can create them.
    3. In underdeveloped America the countryside is the basic area for armed fighting.
    -guerilla warface-che guevara
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    sorry I've goth to take the word problem back but like the travelling thingy to cuba and that stuff and u$ 's media..
    We consider that the Cuban Revolution contributed three fundamental lessons to the conduct of revolutionary movements in America. They are:
    1. Popular forces can win a war against the army.
    2. It is not necessary to wait until all conditions for making revolution exist; the insurrection can create them.
    3. In underdeveloped America the countryside is the basic area for armed fighting.
    -guerilla warface-che guevara
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    the point id say was that even though cuba is a third world country, it has one of the best education, health and welfare systems in the world.
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    The US administration itself has imposed dictators and totalitarian governments who were less than benevolent on countries that had democratic governments such as iran, chile, guatemala, afghanistan in the 80's, and indonesia. One leader or ruling party means a more focused, deliberate, and unimposed (quicker) path towards the objectives of said ruling party. If the objective is social equality, quality public education and healthcare, fairer wages, abundant food, and adequate infrastructure without too much suppression of political freedom and internal dissent which is necessary to achieve the above mentioned goals, then it may be 'good to have 1 ruler like Fidel in cuba'. the problem is that power corrupts, and ultimate power corrupts ultimately and the balance of suppressing political freedom without violating human rights is a near impossible task.
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    Castro was elected.
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    Actual neutral nation he was the only big revolutionary left alive at the end of the revoltion. The big rebel in the city was shot about two weeks before by a Batatisa killer. Castro was just handed power, which WAS a GOOD THING.
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    Your teachers wins the argument because you cannot be bothered to learn for yourself and create your own views and interpretations on things.
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    Socialismo, you have some sort of complex with people learning from this site? while I agree that he shouldn't be told "why it's good" he should learn and make his own interpretation of whether it is goo or not.

    But even still, this is a site for debate and learning. You seem to reject anyone trying to do so. such as when I asked from some links about appeasement. If you don't have anything to add, don't post. If you don't like that people come here to learn, then go somewhere else.

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    tell your teacher that if cuba had a capitalist goverment half the population would live in shanty towns.
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    Quote: from Droes lee on 9:57 pm on May 28, 2003
    dja I can see that it works but i dont know why .
    the teatcher says that there can be dictatorship
    if only one person has the power but I wana convince my clasmates and maybe my brainwashed teatcher.....
    but how.... cuba's economie is fine only the presure of the u$ is a problem .
    Brainwash yourself to convince the brainwashed.
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    But they guy specifically asked for other peoples reasons. So you agree with me then.
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    Odd, I thought he asked for reasons why Cuba does well under Fidel, maybe I was mistaken.

    As you add he "can't be bothered to learn for himself".
    Bit of a contradiction seeing that he came to this community for that very reason.

    If you don't care about helping him don't bother saying anything. He came looking for help, not criticism.
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    He came here looking for people to give him his argument. A sign of complete ignorance and laziness.
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    Not everyone is perfect, not everyone has complete knowledge of how to debate, not even you. If you don't want him to learn, add nothing.

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    lazines???!!! how do i've goth to learn when I don't geth any aswers?? I surfd to many che and cuba site's but I dident geth any aswers how it commes that Fidel leeds cuba so good ?? I tought that you guys had an idea becose you all have more knowledge of it.....
    We consider that the Cuban Revolution contributed three fundamental lessons to the conduct of revolutionary movements in America. They are:
    1. Popular forces can win a war against the army.
    2. It is not necessary to wait until all conditions for making revolution exist; the insurrection can create them.
    3. In underdeveloped America the countryside is the basic area for armed fighting.
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    Speaking for myself Droes I see no problem at all in you coming here to learn and I can only imagine that some of the guys responding negatively to you must have got a little too much early summer sun.

    I would object to someone coming here in order to ask deliberately naive questions so that they can then start slagging off socialism but you seem perfectly geuine to me.

    However I think part of the problem is that we dont really understand quite what you are getting at or quite what you asking. Here is my best attempt at what I think you are asking :

    1. Fidel is in fact now elected, Cuban democracy is well established. It does not function quite the same way as say, US 2 party representative democracy in that it involves people far more in giving their direct opinion of issues rather than simply agreeing to follow a leader no matter what he does. In short many people woud say that Cuban style democracy is far superior to the US style.

    2. Fidel came to power in a peoples revolution against what was undeniably an oppressive disctatorship.

    3. He was at all times given huge popular support and it was never at any time remotely in doubt that both the policies he stood for and he himself had the overwhelming support of the Cuban people.

    4. Fidel several times suggested that his position of president should be out to the vote and was always shouted down by the Cuban people who insisted that he was completely trusted and wanted by them. As I said even so he eventually insisted that the position be subject to a formal voting procedure.

    5. The position of Cuban president is not directly voted on by the people. The people elect local leaders (who are usually well known to them) and ask these local representatives to choose a president from amongst themselves.

    6. If you are asking what are the personal attributes that make Fidel so admired and popular I would say it his courage, passion, intelligence, strength of character, and above all his sense of honour. he had to do many things in order to hold Cuba together which I suspect he would have preferred not to; he has had to make hard (perhaps you could call them ruthless) decisions; but few doubt that at all times these decsions were made in the interests of Cuban people NOT for personal gain.

    Fidel is a gifted leader who seems to possess far less of the self serving interests which many leaders posess. I am sure he has a large ego, if he did not he would not have been able to sustain his self believe in the face of US antagonism for 50 odd year; but crucially this ego seems to feed off doing right,not off self aggrandisement.

    I hope this has helped. If not please explain what you would like elaboration on.

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    thank you sc4r, al the answers are good answers !!
    now I can go ""deeper"" in the cuban politics...
    and slaughter my teatcher in a good debate
    We consider that the Cuban Revolution contributed three fundamental lessons to the conduct of revolutionary movements in America. They are:
    1. Popular forces can win a war against the army.
    2. It is not necessary to wait until all conditions for making revolution exist; the insurrection can create them.
    3. In underdeveloped America the countryside is the basic area for armed fighting.
    -guerilla warface-che guevara

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