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    I found this on an other forum.. this guy is from Australia and basically said the following in reguards to the Lebanon and Israel conflict.


    i hope isreal bomb these fuckers more and more cos im sick of lebs in my country they are a bunch of fuckers who have no respect for australias way of living , last year in our country all australian pplz got together on a beach to roit aganist these fucks i duno if many are in usa or other countrys u mite be from but in sydney aus theres alot and they have no respect for any1 even old pplz


    what would you call this kind of sick attitude? I mean is like me saying I hope all chinese die because the ones who live in my neighborhood are assholes or some sick shit.. what can we do to make this people look like assholes? and make them realize they are sick for thinking this way...?
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    Hiiiiiii I'm from Australia lol and i think the arabs should band together and slaughter every Israeli soldier on Lebanese soil! lol
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    I would like to say that this is a small minority views but it has got a backing, throughout sections of society here. Racism in Australia is a huge problem, it's hard to underestimate it, really.

    i hope isreal bomb these fuckers more and more cos im sick of lebs in my country they are a bunch of fuckers who have no respect for australias way of living
    If Australia is represented by this fucker or if its the Australian way of living to wish for the bombing of civilians, then I guess you can call the IDF to bomb my house. There is no such thing as a Australian way of living and if there was, I see no reason why anyone should be compelled to live by it.

    last year in our country all australian pplz got together on a beach to roit aganist these fucks
    Uhh, yes, all of us were there. Every last one. It still makes me sick to think about it and it makes me sad, as well, that the left wasn't prepared enough to counteract it. By "riot against these fucks" he means of course beat up anyone with darkish skin.

    But to show how widespread it is, look at this article from Piers Akerman, who doesn't believe "Australian Australians(!?)" should have to pay for Lebanese- Australians to be evacuated because they may have voted for Hezbollah!

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/pi...nly_australian/
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    That is my honest opinion actually.

    But to answer your complaint-

    There is an increasing amount of racism in Australia currently. The government has been perpetuating racist nonsense for the last 10 years, rubbishing on about refugees (queue jumpers, freeloaders), Muslims (terrorists, a religion incompatable with the Aussie way of life), the indiginous folk (petrol sniffers, dole bludgers) and immigrant workers (reds, stealing our jobs)// so it comes as no great suprise that a lot of people have swallowed it.

    You may not realise it, but the Australian population is unbelievebly docile. The majority simply don't give a toss about what is going on- a recent poll found that many Australians didn't even know a thing about the Industrial Relations laws being introduced (to you overseas- basically the same as what the government tried, and failed, to do in France)// they often just follow the rest of the flock. As long as nothing gets in the way of watching Big Brother, the Bold and the Beautiful, their subscription to Picture Magazine and their breakfasts at Macca's and dinner at the pub, they don't give a toss about nothing.

    So don't be so suprised! I'd say at least half the population is infected with racist, quasi-racist, nationalist and/or Christianoid viruses. At least you don't have to live here.
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    R_P_A_S, which forum did you find that comment on?
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    I hate those fools who marched in that demonstration and then this year they support Australia in the World Cup. The Aussie team is basically made up of immigrants...
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    Originally posted by Black Dagger@Jul 20 2006, 10:05 AM
    R_P_A_S, which forum did you find that comment on?
    its a hip-hop forum that i post on.
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    Originally posted by R_P_A_S+Jul 20 2006, 08:29 PM--> (R_P_A_S @ Jul 20 2006, 08:29 PM)
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    @Jul 20 2006, 10:05 AM
    R_P_A_S, which forum did you find that comment on?
    its a hip-hop forum that i post on. [/b]
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    Oh i'd say that Racism is most defiantly a completely huge problem in Australia. Worse than many think too. The Schools are flooded with it. You wonder where they get it from. It comes straight from our fucking Prime minister and parliment. Lil Johnny wouldn't say sorry to the indigenous people, this breds all sort of racist acts in people. This is our leader, our representative in the world and he very blantantly shows what contempt he has to our indigenous people. Speaking of his attitude to people of other races...the boat people affair? How about the whole freaking Migration affair? Yet this man is still in power? You want to know why Australia is a racist society? It's cause our prime minister shows us it's ok to be
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    I read the first part of that Piers Akerman article, and promptly flung the Daily Shittigraph onto the ground... He referred to people with dual citizenship as "whingers" or something similar.

    But yeah, I think there&#39;ll be an extraordinary degree of apathy about Lebanon, only exacerbated by underlying racism. I also suspect that the government&#39;s shitty handling of evacuations is due to the ethnicity of the people stranded...
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    Originally posted by Little brother+--> (Little brother)You wonder where they get it from. It comes straight from our fucking Prime minister and parliment.[/b]


    I disagree. After all, John Howard and &#39;parliament&#39; are rarely explicitly racist in their comments or actions. Unfortunately people tend not to read into the racist undertones of what they are nearly always saying, especially when concerning immigration or Indigenous peoples - although moreso with immigration, and this is because John Howard is not alone when he makes these statements, who do you think has given him a decade in office?

    Australian racism has its roots in its history as a &#39;settler&#39; colony - beginning with the &#39;fatal impact&#39; and &#39;civilising mission&#39; type philosophies of european colonists and growing into the &#39;white australia&#39; type nationalist-racism that has been maintained steadily since federation.

    Australia being a white colony that is isolated from europe, has always been a country obsessed (or perhaps more accurately, terrified) with the idea of &#39;foreign&#39; migration (ironic given colonial history) - because at the heart of popular non-Indigenous &#39;australian culture&#39; (something that is still thoroughly european) &#39;we&#39; are a kind of &#39;better Britain&#39; - but the christian and britishness of &#39;our&#39; so-called &#39;roots&#39; is held to be the nations all important foundation - &#39;foreigners&#39; (unless they&#39;re capitalists of course, in which case - invest&#33 tend to undermine this ideology.

    Recently muslim migrants have stretched this ideology, not only do muslims challenge non-Indigenous australias&#39; christian identity and so-called &#39;roots&#39;, but also apparently the nations &#39;values&#39; - roots and values are also routinely polly code for &#39;britishness&#39; (whiteness).

    It&#39;s not suprising that the the majority of muslims that come to australia are not from europe. In the not too distant past (1970s), the white australia policy dominated immigration discourse, nowdays those who want to exclude &#39;undesireable&#39; migrants - approach things a little differently, though really these are old tricks.

    Just as it was in other periods, during the cold war and even before that, during times of war - to label asian migrants as &#39;spies and reds&#39; - to justify asian exclusion, nowdays we all live in the age of &#39;islamic terrorism&#39; or international terrorism, and this is being used a long with references to australian &#39;values&#39; (aka christian values) and australian heritage (aka british heritage) - to justify the domestic reppression and terrorising of muslim migrants (and muslims born in australia) - and an immigration policy that breathes life into the white australian concept of old - &#39;we will determine who has the right to come here&#39; - of course, the fact that there is a correlation here between religion and ethinicity people will tell you is only a coincidence.

    These kind of ideas for sure are reflected in the rhetoric of politicans (see Costello and Howard&#39;s recent comments on &#39;australian values&#39; vis-a-vis muslim migrants) - but they&#39;re only reinforcing a very well established national tradition, it&#39;s not something that John Howard or any neo-Liberal politician has invented, this sort of language (and fear) when it comes to immigration predates australian federation.

    Originally posted by Little brother+--> (Little brother)
    Lil Johnny wouldn&#39;t say sorry to the indigenous people, this breds all sort of racist acts in people.[/b]


    Again i disagree, the racism is already there - since colonisation australian society has always had that dynamic, the undercurrent of racism has never gone away. Nor do i really think that most non-Indigenous people give a shit about what happens to Indigenous peoples in this country - as a general rule, people might say they support &#39;reconciliation&#39; but in practice this means fuck all in terms of actually making changes to australian society, the redistribution of resources and so forth.

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    This is our leader, our representative in the world and he very blantantly shows what contempt he has to our indigenous people.
    Eh, i know you probably didnt mean anything by this, but Indigenous people are not &#39;ours&#39; (i find that kinda language really patronising - though it was probably not intended in this way at all).

    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are not the mascots of &#39;our&#39; country - even if they are treated as such by the colonial state for the international press and tourists, they are most definately not &#39;our&#39; Indigenous people. Again this was probably not what you meant, but that sort of attitude (&#39;our&#39; people) is unfortunately very common.

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    You want to know why Australia is a racist society? It&#39;s cause our prime minister shows us it&#39;s ok to be
    As i&#39;ve said above, i really think this is missing the broader picture of australian history.

    First of all, this suggests that &#39;ordinary&#39; australians (i.e. the voting public) are not really racist, merely manipulated into being so by the PM or politicians in general - effectively removing any blame or responsibility for racism from the general population.

    And secondly, it&#39;s pretty clear that racism predates John Howard (although i&#39;m sure you&#39;re aware of this also), that it can be traced right back to this colonisation of this continent by europeans.

    That racism and racist biological, anthropological and social constructions were used to justify policies of protectionism, assimilation and biological &#39;absorption&#39; on the one hand, and white-oriented exclusionary immigration policy and nationalism on the other, over a period of two centuries - its&#39; no wonder australia, and australian socio-political culture are fucked when it comes to &#39;race relations&#39;, it&#39;s been engrained into colonial society for over 200 years&#33;

    The fact that australia (as a colony) was founded for all intents and purposes a european nation outside of europe has always made the non-Indigenous (overwhelmingly euro) population susceptible to race-baiting nationalism and racism in general.

    It&#39;s logical for an isolated european colony to foster a very european form of racist nationalism. If the europeans of this &#39;new&#39; nation dont cannot and do not rally behind the flag - if they dont identify as a nation than the colony will fail - in this way racism (and racist nationalism) has always been critical in maintaining the legitimacy of the colonial state.
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    the guy doesn&#39;t realise that if israel keeps bombing, more people are likely to emigrate...
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    Yeah i admit some of the terms i used there weren&#39;t very right at all. Heat of the moment. I agree with the things i was corrected on. However while i realise John Howard isn&#39;t the forefather of Racism in Australia i still think as the leader of this country he should be setting an example to discourage racism in this country. Sure he said the riots were bad, yet his actions speak louder with the not saying sorry and his views on the Immigration policies.
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    Originally posted by Little brother
    however while i realise John Howard isn&#39;t the forefather of Racism in Australia i still think as the leader of this country he should be setting an example to discourage racism in this country. Sure he said the riots were bad, yet his actions speak louder with the not saying sorry and his views on the Immigration policies.
    Definately agree with this, though im not sure if he even ever said that the riots were explictly bad (well he never connected any of the events with the idea of racismm). All the pollies basically denounced the &#39;hooliganism&#39; of &#39;both sides&#39; - whilst coming down basically on the side of the &#39;aussie pride&#39; crowd, by ignoring the underlying racism that motivated the violence, it was all the &#39;outsiders&#39; fault, none of the local shire folk were responsible apparently. Of course by blaming &#39;outsiders&#39; they&#39;re lifting any responsibility for the violence off the back of the shire and dispering it, in effect to no one, blaming &#39;outsiders&#39; is about as vague a responsible party can be.

    Also, despite the clear &#39;racial&#39; undercurrent of the riot, Howard denied that australia is a racist country, or even that racism is a problem
    You&#39;re right, that kind of attitude is the WORST possible one to take, he&#39;s not even admitting that racism is a problem, so how the fuck are we meant to address it? We cant&#39;, and i&#39;m sure Mr. &#39;1950s australia was a golden age&#39; howard is not shedding any tears over that.

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