The perfect enemy

[Conghaileach]

The perfect enemy

Terrorists who can't be caught
because they don't really exist
or because they're CIA assets



By John Kaminski
[email protected]



War is a sociological safety valve that cleverly diverts popular hatred
for the ruling classes into a happy occasion to mutilate or kill foreign
enemies.
’Äî Ernest Becker


War provides the perfect cover for those waging it to commit crimes
against not only enemies but also friends. Amid the patriotic flag
waving and somber ceremony, the populace is cowed into distraction and
for the most part will not see the chicanery and manipulation that not
only created the conditions FOR the war, but also will not perceive that
the purpose OF it is not to defeat the enemy, but to financially
castrate and sociologically neutralize those who are actually helping to
wage the war.


Such is the process by which those in power consolidate their advantage
among their so-called friends.


The Christian Crusades of millenia past provide an apt example of this
deceptive process. With no enemies nearby and a surfeit of armed and
affluent noblemen itching for aggressive acts, kings and ministers of
past empires dreamed up external threats by which to distract their
powerful friends from contemplating revolution. Jerusalem and the
dark-skinned Muslim realms have always been a popular target. The
subsequent conflicts not only reaped new riches for the warmaking
kingdoms, but also depleted the ranks and resources of those sent to
fight, thereby lessening the potential political threat to the very
people who dreamed up the wars in the first place. Two birds with one
stone.


Those innocents killed in such cynical gambits now bear the unfortunate
title of collateral damage, regrettable but necessary sacrifices to the
selfishness of those in positions of power who seek to maintain it. So
this world full of greedy humans continues to turn.


During war, citizens of the warmaking state may not question the motives
of their leaders, lest they be accused of treason and summarily
executed. Therefore, any state seeking permanent obeisance and minimal
criticism from its citizenry will logically aspire toward a regimen of
permanent war. It is supremely ironic that a majority of these citizens
will wholeheartedly support such efforts, without realizing that it is
the destruction of their own freedom that they are cheering.


However, real enemies are usually not so accommodating as to wish to
engage in battle indefinitely. They are either are defeated and
disappear as a viable social force, or, they kick butt and thereby ruin
the plans of the manipulative attacker forever.


A shrewd superpower kingdom will cleverly avoid picking a fair fight,
thereby eliminating, as nearly as possible, the undesirable surprise of
an unexpected defeat. It will also defer toward states of relatively
equal strength, establish diplomatic relations, and wait for an
opportunity to screw them surreptitiously and without penalty.


Since the situation we face now is that one superpower outstrips in
military might the next ten strongest nations, the need for it to be
diplomatic is at an all-time low. It simply can do what it wants when it
wants.


And yet, humans being what they are ’Äî wanting to be free, happy, honest
and well-fed ’Äî even a superpower in this unchallenged position must
construct fantasy scenarios to convince its people ’Äî no matter how
amateurishly ’Äî that they are doing the right thing by supporting endless
wars.


Today we hear all sorts of childish whimpering about the terrorist
threat, even though a cursory examination of recent history would reveal
that most of these threats have been deliberately created by the nation
doing most of the complaining about these very threats.


And this epiphany can lead you to a very startling observation about the
nature of the world as human civilization enters the 21st century
following the appearance of the Divine Messiah most of this civilization
pretends to worship.


It seemed for a time ’Äî two centuries, actually ’Äî that the United States
of America was a good country, champion of justice, advocate of freedom,
that sort of stuff. What was lost in the education of its own citizens,
however, was the frequency with which it went to war, against
interlopers who were invariably depicted as evil people on the wrong
side of democratic progress.


A cursory perusal of this murderous American resumˆ© will reveal that it
has always been the aggressor in all these big fights, even though the
official histories bend the facts to show the U.S. was fighting for
freedom against one tyrant or another.


But as time passed and the world got smaller, it became obvious that the
U.S. was running out of countries that it could call evil, declare war
against, and then pulverize.


Besides, once a country had been seriously obliterated, it simply took
too long to rebuild it into a serious enemy again.


Clearly, if the same cartel that has essentially been running this
country for all of its 227 years was to stay in power, it had to devise
a new formula for finding constant enemies to fight, thereby enriching
its own coffers and keeping its own citizenry from noticing too much
about the way it actually conducts its business.


So it devised a new system of actually creating its own enemies. It
sponsored young malcontents to fight battles the served the purposes of
the masters, provided them with weapons and support techniques, used
them for awhile, and then seemingly cut them loose to develop on their
own. Of course, all the while the progress of these young rebels was
monitored by American intelligence agencies, for the purpose of
determining exactly when they could be considered mature enough to
reclassify them from a nominal ally fighting for U.S. interests into a
nightmare threat fighting against U.S. interests.


The key element in making this process work was fabricating staged
terror events that were actually perpetrated against our own citizens
but then cleverly blamed on these various foreign provocateurs whom the
U.S. had carefully nurtured and brought to maturity.


The U.S. learned this trick from Israel, which had successfully used the
technique throughout Europe (principally in Germany) and specifically in
Iraq in the 1940s, to convince its own people of the dangers posed by
"enemies" it had previously supported, for the purpose of creating a
hysteria to compel more Jews to move to Israel.


Of course, now we see how Israel has used this staged terror formula to
elicit world support for its illegal occupation of Palestine. And more
vividly, we see how the staged terror events in New York City have
driven a large part of Western Civilization into a new, crusade-like
rage against the peoples of Islamic countries. Serious historians will
note this has all been done before, but the general population contains
few serious historians, so most people don't notice that the current War
on Terror is simply a replay of the European royals' propaganda used to
attack Middle Eastern peoples some eight hundred years ago, and ever
since.


And lest you think all this is merely a flight of literary fancy, I bid
you consider the careers of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, both of
whom were catapulted into the public eye as fledgling CIA operatives,
bin Laden as an Arab counterculture hero (and cheered on by his family)
who rode to the rescue (with large amounts of cash) of the Afghani
mujahadeen, accompanied by plenty of assistance from Ronald Reagan's CIA
wheelerdealers; and Saddam as one of the triggermen in a 1968 coup in
Iraq that was of course fueled by support from the, you-guessed-it, CIA.
I probably need not mention that either one of these strategic CIA
assets has ever been apprehended.


So for these folks to develop into threats against the world (and this
is not to mention Panama's Manuel Noriega, who also followed the same
progressive curriculum as a pawn in the South American drug game and
good friend of the Bush family, only to later become the target of a
massive American invasion), you begin to see the pattern.


The U.S. has really replaced client state enemies it first builds up
with cash bribes and then converts into enemies with client personality
enemies, whom it nurtures with military support, provokes with a no-win
decision (whatever did happen to April Glaspie?), and then invades in a
profitable fit of righteous retribution.


Are you getting the picture?


It's interesting reading some of the older stories about al-Qaeda, the
so-called terror group founded by bin Laden in Afghanistan (and nurtured
by Pakistani intelligence, which was covertly funded by the American
CIA), and seeing how al-Qaeda fought side by side with American
mercenaries in Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia and even Chechnya, but when
they were conveniently needed as an excuse for going to war somewhere
else (Afghanistan and Iraq), they were quickly converted into an enemy.


Clearly, al-Qaeda is connected to the CIA, but for purposes of stealing
Iraq's oil reserves, the U.S. connected them to Iraq, and got a major
assist from what used to be called the American free press, but now is
called something else, something far worse.


I guess you could call al-Qaeda a multi-purpose CIA asset, good for
either good or bad activities.


Al-Qaeda are claimed to the boogeymen who perpetrated 9/11 and were
supposedly connected to Saddam.


And yet when you go to find out about them, they disappear in a cloud of
undercover spy dust, with no leads suddenly unavailable as to where they
might have disappeared. How utterly convenient. The real reason is
because their controllers live at the Pentagon and other prestigious
Washington addresses, not to mention a few palaces in Saudi Arabia that
have ties to many American corporations.


Occasionally, the powers that be throw us a bone, like Moussaoui, or
Richard Reid, just to try to prove there are actual terrorists out
there. But how many more so-called terrorists have been allowed to slip
away, under cover of CIA assistance? And, as in Yemen, how many more are
prevented from being sought, lest they reveal their ties to the
government in Washington?


Instead of having countries to blame for our ills, we now have mystical
individuals ’Äî terrorists ’Äî who absolutely can't be found, except for
those like Atta and the supposed hijackers who actually received
training at U.S. military installations. Sound like a familiar
technique?


For endless war, you must have an enemy who cannot be caught, who is
completely vaporous, therefore necessitating nonstop aggressive
emergency measures, variously colored alerts and tough talk for those
who are unable to understand words.


The perfect enemy for a state that seeks endless war and seeks forever
to pull the wool over the eyes of its own citizens for purposes of
endless robbery and implementing slavery where freedom previously
existed would be an enemy who cannot, under any circumstances, ever be
caught. Osama and Saddam doubtless know this.


In the literal sense, this perfect enemy does not exist, which makes him
perfect for a society determined to make war, because he will never be
caught, and the war can continue forever.


The harder an enemy is to find and defeat, the better it is for those
who seek to destroy that enemy. The CIA's creation of al-Qaeda is the
perfect recipe for those billionaires whose objective is endless
conflict from which to make more money. This is the new era in which we
find ourselves.


It is the ultimate tilting at windmills, by which the elite who have
always run America can perpetrate their vicious schemes of slavery, the
gullible can continue to have their empty causes to cheer, and
legitimate, God-fearing citizens can cower in fear while the very
churches they support participate in the coverup that supports the
tyrants who oppress them.


This is the way the world is, and has always been.


Only now it's worse, because the enemy is now a fabricated fiction,
available for convenient blame in any and all disasters, no matter who
actually perpetrated them.


And thanks to media shills who don't ask real questions, well-bribed
legislators devoid of conscience, law enforcers who help their patrons
cover up crimes, and judges who have no interest in real justice, there
is no end in sight for this war on freedom.


John Kaminski lives on the coast of Florida and is the author of
"America's Autopsy Report," soon to be published by Dandelion Books.

[Nobody]

No offense, but that is completly off the deep end. I don't like the system anymore than you, but I also don't think the CIA funds Al-Qiada now. They did when they were shooting Russian, and I guess indirectily you're right, but to claim that the CIA is behind 9-11 is crazy.

[Zombie]

Lev,
please, prove that the CIA wasn't behind the 9-11.

[apathy maybe]

I think inocent until proven guilty is still around in some parts of the world. (even if not in the US)

[Urban Rubble]

Zombie, please prove that the CIA WAS invloved.

You had to have seen that coming.

[ComradeJunichi]

Well, for starters the facts just don't add up. For example, military jets did not reach the airplanes until around 30 minutes (?) after. Usually, when pentagon orders they get there in less than 10, 10 being max. Second, people saying that they couldn't see this coming is bullshit. Countless times have the World Trade Center been plotted on. Countless times have planes been highjacked as terrorist attacks, for example the four planes (which was supposed to be five) were highjacked in the name of Islamic Jihad and crashed in Jordan. In the Geneva conferences anti-aircraft guns were set up all around the building where Bush was having meetings afraid that he would be killed by terrorist high-jacked jets.

Bush had briefings that Al-Qaida might be highjacking airplanes. October 24th-26th 2000, Pentagon held detailed drills practicing for an airplane to be crashed into the Pentagon. In Genoa, Italy, July 2001, at the G8 summit, 2 months before the attack, all airspace was closed off. The summit area was guarded by Anti-Aircraft guns, intelligence were afraid that aircrafts would be highjacked and crashed into the G8 Summit to kill President Bush. Intelligence reports from France, Germany, Russia, Egypt, Jordan show that the week of September 9th, commercial airliners (United and American Airlines) would be highjacked and crash into the WTC at least one would be from one airport in Boston.


Just go look up some info. There are lots of facts that don't piece together.

[Urban Rubble]

I have looked alot of it up, but all the theories seem to add up to incompetence rather than involvement.

[ChiTown Lady]

CiaranB – this was an excellent article. Props to you for posting it.

And for those of you who need further evidence of the fact that the US Government and CIA were involved in and perpetrating the 9/11 attacks (or at least knew about the attacks prior to their occurance, and decided to use it to further Imperialistic plans to not only wage more wars in order to comandere forein assets, but ALSO for the purpose of supressing the freedoms and rights of the people of the United States in the process).
– read this:

It is a known fact, that the Neocons stated in a strategic paper published in 98, that the US needs a Pearl Harbour like attack, so that certain radical changes in the USA can be pushed thru. The Neocons are the people Wolfowitz, Pearl, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and others that control the White House today. These changes towards a militaristic, war waging society with its freedom curtailed can not be done under normal circumstances, but only under an exceptional situation like an attack from the outside. Isn't it a huge coincidence that exactly this scenario happened a few years later, with the terrorist attack on the Twin Towers, which the Neocons where looking for so anxiously?

Now it is also a well known fact that Bin Laden was trained and supported by the CIA. He is a child of the CIA, that was created and used to help wage the war against the Soviet Union during their occupation of Afghanistan. As long as he was fighting with his radical Islamist against the "enemy" of the USA, he was a good terrorist. After Gorbatschow took over the Soviet Union and did his Perestroika thing, he stopped the senseless war in Afghanistan and pulled the Soviet troops out. From the point of view of the CIA and US administration the enemy was defeated, the job done and Bin Laden was not needed any more. They just dropped him and his fighters like a hot potato.

Now Bin Laden was left in Afghanistan alone and the power vacuum was filled by the Taliban that turned this country into a Islamic state, just as Bin Ladin had dreamed of. This was his new home and training base to build up a large following of fighters. Since Bin Laden had won against the hated Soviet Union, he looked for the next enemy of Islam, and that of course was the USA with its pro Israel and anti Palestine politics. So he started the fight against the USA and what followed was the first bombing of the Twin Towers, bombing of the US embassy in Sudan etc. With these attacks the CIA turned their attention back to him and started to monitor all of his steps and actions.

Bin Laden build up his Al Qaeda network and the plan was thought out to attack the biggest symbol of America again, the WTC in New York. This time a different method would be used, crashing planes into it. So fighters where recruited and send to the States for pilot training and recognisance. Since Bin Laden studied architecture and had an own construction company before becoming a terrorist leader, he knew exactly where the weak points of a building are and planed accordingly. All these activities where of course monitored and watched by the CIA and later also inside the States by the FBI. With a budget of more the 50 billion Dollars per year they had plenty of money and resources to tail every one of his terrorist 24 hours a day.

It is a known fact that many FBI reports where filed by agents to the department and to the CIA, about the activities of the terrorists in the US regarding flight training and other activities. Agents shadowing the terrorists reported numerous times that they thought an attack of large magnitude using planes against an important symbolic object was imminent. All of these reports where registered by the heads of FBI, CIA and of course also by the White House. But nothing happened. No intervention or arrests where ordered before the attack. Although they new the identity of all terrorists, their where-abouts and also what they where planning to do, they where not stopped. All FBI agents that saw this grave danger and demanded counter action where pulled back and told to do nothing and to shut up.

Now everybody will ask, why should the authorities who knew everything and saw the attack coming, not do something to protect America from terrorism? This is the mother of all questions. The reason was, the above mentioned Pearl Harbour like attack on the USA that the Neocons where so desperately seeking had to happen. They even took into account the loss of 3000 lives, just to get the trigger event. This is of course a most cynical and unbelievable allegation, but it explains everything. From 9/11 on everything has changed, nothing is the same. The Neocons rushed all new laws thru congress to reduce the rights of the people with full consent from the law makers. Every opposition against these drastic measures where brushed aside with the statement: "If you are not for the Patriot Act you are supporting terrorists". This false argument squashed all opposition.

They next step in the Neocons big plan was then taken. Now the war against Afghanistan was started. Fighting the international terrorism, Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network given as the reason. The real reason was a different one. Of course the whole world was in solidarity with the USA because of the shock of 9/11. With the blessings of the UN and the international community the US forces invaded Afghanistan to destroy the Taliban regime and to catch the number one enemy, Bin Laden. With overwhelming forces of course the US smashed the Taliban in a few days, but strangely enough Bin Laden was not captured and so he is still at loose until today. Now people will ask how did he get away? How did he escape all the high tech systems looking for him? Did the US administration for some reason not want him to be caught? Is the unthinkable possible that somebody high up helped him get away? Now we ask ourselves, is there any connection between Bin Laden and Bush?

Let's change the scene and move to Switzerland. The Carlyle Group is one of the largest investment fonts of the world that specialises in owning shares of defence companies. Last year the Carlyle Group held their annual share holders meeting at a luxury hotel in Geneva/Switzerland. Many well know persons arrived at the meeting, like for instance former President Bush senior, or former Secretary of State James Baker and also Frank Carlucci the former defence secretary. The hotel personnel nearly fainted when all of a sudden an Arabic looking person also showed his invitation for the meeting and was let in. Guess who he was? It was Islam Bin Laden, the head of the finance holding of the Bin Laden family. That means, the family Bush and senior members of the US-Administration as well as the Bin Laden family are all connected thru their large ownership in the same company. They work together, make decisions together and profit from the earnings together, produced by defence companies that make weapon systems to fight wars. Does that explain why Bin Laden is still free?

Now the real reason for invading Afghanistan was to get rid of the Taliban and install a US friendly regime, so that a big oil pipe line going from the Caspian Sea in the north, to the Persian Golf in the south could be build thru Afghanistan by the US oil companies. This very important project could not be done with the Taliban in power. They had to be removed and the fight against the Bin Laden and Al Qaeda was just a pretext or a side show. The US administration was only interested in removing an unfriendly regime and then get out as fast as possible, as they always do, leaving a mess behind. They left the nation and infrastructure rebuilding to the "stupid" Europeans speak Germans to do, who now manage Kabul the capital. As we all know nearly all members of the US administration including of course Bush have all grown up, worked in, have close ties and are still connected to the oil industry. Their whole strategic thinking and mentality is only about oil and gaining power over oil, nothing else.

The total emphasis on oil brings us now to the war against Iraq. In the Neocon big plan, taking over and rearranging the whole Middle East is the ultimate goal. Iraq with the second largest oil reserves must be under control of the US. Therefore Saddam Hussein has to be also removed and that is the reason why the war is now going on. The reasons given, it's about WMD or democracy or freedom are utter bull shit. America was never in its history interested in spreading democracy and freedom in other countries and they have never done it. It's only about the big strategic plan to gain control over very important natural resources like oil. The next candidates in this big plan is Iran, because they are the only country still run by Islamist fundamentalist. They control the area between the Caspian Sea and the Persian Golf and also have very large oil reserves. This is the last country in the World that the Neocons don't control that has a lot of oil. The threats spoken out by Rumsfeld and Powell lately show already where the next war will be.

This brings us back to the allegation, the 9/11 attack is all part of the big plan and they knew it was coming. By the way, this is not the first time this has happened. The attack on Pearl Harbour was also expected by the US government. They knew it was coming because they had cracked the Japanese code. Therefore they moved all the new aircraft carries out to sea, so that they wouldn't get hit. Only the old battleships where left in Pearl for the Japs to bomb and destroy. They had to get rid of the old junk anyway. The 2000 sailors that died where considered expendable. This "hideous" attack was needed to make the American public so angry, that they approved to the US going into war against Germany and Japan. Before this, the US public was neutral and uncommitted to war. History is repeating itself today and America is fooled again into a war.

[ChiTown Lady]

The 1998 letter I previously referred to:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclin...intonletter.htm

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC
Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.

Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.

Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

[ChiTown Lady]

Again - even MORE proof for the connection between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family, and this is from last month - April 2003.

http://truthout.org/docs_03/040803F.shtml

Editor's Note: Do a web Google.com search with the words "Carlyle" and "Bush," and throw in "Osama" for spice. You'll have some very interesting reading in front of you.

US Arms Group Heads for Lisbon
The Portugal News
Friday 4 April 2003

Directors of one of the world’s largest armament companies are planning on meeting in Lisbon in three weeks time. The American based Carlyle Group is heavily involved in supplying arms to the Coalition forces fighting in the Iraqi war.

It also holds a majority of shares in the Seven Up company and Federal Data Corporation, supplier of air traffic control surveillance systems to the US Federal Aviation Authority. The 12 billion dollar company has recently signed contracts with United Defence Industries to equip the Turkish and Saudi Arabian armies with aviation defence systems.

Top of the meeting’s agenda is expected to be the company’s involvement in the rebuilding of Baghdad’s infrastructure after the cessation of current hostilities. Along with several other US companies, the Carlyle Group is expected to be awarded a billion dollar contract by the US Government to help in the redevelopment of airfields and urban areas destroyed by Coalition aerial bombardments.

The Group is managed by a team of former US Government personnel including its president Frank Carlucci, former deputy director of the CIA before becoming Defence Secretary. His deputy is James Baker II, who was Secretary of State under George Bush senior. Several high profile former politicians are employed to represent the company overseas, among them John Major, former British Prime Minister, along with George Bush senior, one time CIA director before becoming US President.

The financial assets of the Saudi Binladen Corporation (SBC) are also managed by the Carlyle Group. The SBC is headed up by members of Osama bin Laden’s family, who played a principle role in helping George W. Bush win petroleum concessions from Bahrain when he was head of the Texan oil company, Harken Energy Corporation - a deal that was to make the Bush family millions of dollars. Salem, Osama bin Laden’s brother, was represented on Harken’s board of directors by his American agent, James R. Bath.

The connection between the Bush and bin Laden families can also be traced to the collapse of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) in the 1990s. Members of the Anglo Pakistani bank’s board of directors included Richard Helmes and William Casey, business partners of George Bush senior and former CIA agents. During their time at BCCI both Helmes and Casey worked alongside fellow director, Adnan Khasshoggi, who also represented the bin Laden family’s interests in the US.

The Portugal News has been told by a reliable source that the Carlyle Group meeting in Lisbon will discuss the relationship between the Saudi Binladen Corporation (SBC) and Osama bin Laden. Many US officials claim that the SBC continues to finance his political activities, and has done so for many years. If true, this would place George Bush senior and his colleagues at the Carlyle Group in an embarrassing position. As managers of SBC’s financial investments they might well be accused of indirectly aiding and abetting the United States’ number one enemy.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from LevTrosky on 12:00 am on May 15, 2003
No offense, but that is completly off the deep end. I don't like the system anymore than you, but I also don't think the CIA funds Al-Qiada now. They did when they were shooting Russian, and I guess indirectily you're right, but to claim that the CIA is behind 9-11 is crazy.

Read 1984 - George Orwell and you get a different view, guarantied!<--What's the correct spelling?!

[GCusack]

The CIA are insane but i dont think 9-11 was them, howwvere, they may well have known about it and not acted upon that knowledge!

[Fiskebat]

Yeah but why shouldnt CIA not been involved, Bush have just benefited from 9-11 attack.

He began a military capmiagn to secure Afghanistan and build up a pro USA gov. there and now the oil in IRaq(and also a new american outpost in the Islamic part of the world) come on wasnnt it worth sacryfing some citizens for that?

By the way it was not like even half the people it used to be in the WTC on 9-11 and also like 80-90 % of the oil Europe import comes from the oil rigs in Iraq! Worth thinking about!

This is dirty buissness in a dirt f***ing capitalistic world!

[Vinny Rafarino]

To a small degree, it is quite possible the CIA were involved in something...Remember, these lads have their hands in everything. (remembering that dubya's father was the former director of that organisation) but to say the CIA was involved to the degree proposed here is ridiculous....these are the same folks who stare at the moon through their telescopes looking for the US flag that they claim is not there...You know, the "all space footage is merely high altitude manuevers" people. But then again, IT'S SO CRAZY IT JUST MIGHT WORK!!!!

CIA involvment or not....those planes sure were damn good bombs.

[Severian]

There's a convergence of interests between ultrarightists like al-Qaeda and the U.S. ruling class, where they feed off each other. They have a deep similarity of method, and a past of collaboration.

It's stronger to just point that out, rather than sinking into conspiracism.

Which, BTW, is rooted in mainstream ideas, like the idea that the system would work properly if it wasn't subverted by sneaky cabals.

This is a pretty good article about the political problem with conspiracism.