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I child, lets say younger then ten, utters a disgusting racial slur. Is s/he a racist? Could possibly grow up to be one, especially if they are raised in a racist household.
What is the appropriate method, to deal with racist/homophobic/sexist little brats, that are not under our care. Obviously they have been strongly encouraged by their parents and possibly by their peers as well.
We can’t just ignore such a thing and let the child think that such words or actions are ok. Clearly they are much to young and manipulability for any sort of punishment.
Thought from people who are better with kids then I?
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Gently tell them that what they said is wrong, but make the tone of your voice suttle and not harsh.
Kinda like saying 'Now, thats not a nice thing to say. Those words hurt people.' or somthing.
Thats how I handled kids in a daycare centre and it seemed to work
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Well, they can't be a 'racist' if they aren't aware of the racist meaning or connotations...which someone 9 or less might not be depending on age, demographics, general awareness, etc.
sure but thats true of any little kid raised in a racist household.
Just because they're children doesn't mean you have special responsibilities or privileges to them, you should just deal with it like you would with anyone else while considering the greater likelyhood that they're not educated about the issue...just tell them why you think something they said was racist.
thats not always obvious sometimes at that age its just an innocent misunderstanding.
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Well racism isn't a natural biological conidtion. It is created from the world we live in, so i would say that this children are racist. At that age their world is very small so they have created this racist comments either from hearing similar comments or they have come to these conclusion about other races from the attitudes of the adults around them.
These children are really just undeveloped racists, they haven't developed into "polite racism" or "subtle racism" yet. I have often seen adults telling kids not to use such words, yet they don't say to the children it's wrong to have such ideas. Unless ofcourse the parents are progressive and know what it is to not be a racist.
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actually Hiero i think thats a very good point...and i think a lot of the danger of liberal political correctness is percisely in creating a culture of "polite" and invisible racism which is harder to confront.
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I remember being taught the 'catch a nigger by the toe' rhyme by other kids, that was a bit shitty.
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I think it starts with fear. I know a little girl who is lives in a rascist household and she is afraid of Mexicans. Whenever she talks about how afraid she is of Mexicans, her parents laugh and reinforce her. She also begins to use the words that her parents use more & more, such as "nigger" and "Blackzilla".
It's highly sickening. <_<
Well they could be influenced by this. They could think it is ok. Did you know Hitler when ever he invaded other nation he wanted educational palces destroyed mainly libaries. Because these books taught that racism is WRONG. Even Hitler knew it was wrong so it shows what a twat he is.
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I can actually bring some enlightening input into this. I was a child who was raised in a sort of racist household. As with most families it seems that the father has the highest chances of being designated as "the racist" which in this case my father is that racist. I always grew up in a household where my father would be cursing out black people as well as many other nationalities. For example, whenever we went out when I was younger my father always told me as we were passing a black, mexian, or whatever to put my hands into my pockets so they don't steal any of my money. As I was only a small child I did as I was told not really knowing what he meant. As I got older of course I understood these things more and more, my mother on the other hand I would have never pictured her as anything of the sort but it seems that she has a bit of racist side herself but it only occured to me as I got older that, that was the case. Though now that I am older and an open homosexual I can say that those things disturb me for what my parents do but have not really affected me so much as I grew to understand those things were wrong especially because I experienced homophobia towards me several times in school situations. All in all, a child can end up being a racist by how they are raised, but I don't belive that it could be all children.
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It's just like children using the words "gay" and "faggot"; it should be discouraged, even though they're not necessarily homophobic. Hopefully they'll grow out of it.
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A great deal of it is, as Hiero says, based on how society reacts to such things. Where I live at the moment casual racism and homophobia is a big problem - when I say casual racism, I mean stuff like "f-wing Pakis are always the ones who make my life difficult". That is a quote from my ex-boss by the way <_<
The way to combat it is, I think, to explain what the idiot phrases and words that kids pick up remarkably quickly mean, and why they are wrong. If you ever hear a kid say something like that, ask them "Why did you say that?" and get them to explain themselves. Most kids with either be a) at a lose to explain it, which is good; or b) will come out with further racist or homophobic shite, which is very very bad.
The first one can be dealt with pretty easily, because if they are just parroting something they heard in school (the worst breeding ground for stuff like that, save the home of course) then its fairly easy to point out why its mean to a child - they have a blissfully simple way of looking at the world. They aren't bad kids, they just live in a bad environment.
If its the second, then it generally means someone (in the home more than likely, or a friend at their school whose been told by their parent) is actively trying to make them into a racist. And because such views have come from (probably) a parent, the child naturally associates that as "right" and anything contradictory as wrong. Like I said, simple viewpoint. Its much harder to break this association, and would probably be easier to do when the child is older and capable of rational thought. Then agian, by that time the thoughts are probably so ingrained it'll be hard to break them out of it. No-win there then
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This brought back many memory from when I was young and unaware of racism however utilizing it daily when I was like 9 or 10.
There used to be a kid from Gambia I think who couldn't speak English and no one liked him. The white children beat him up and called him nigger, then the whole class joined in just because everyone else was doing it.
I've been brought up by my parents to believe that all people are equal but one day we were playing 'tig' and this black kid he tagged my friend and my friend fell over. My friend started smashing the black kid into the wall and going 'you silly zulu' and the black kid was screaming 'I go to heaven and you go to Satan' because he refused to his him back.
Then everyone including myself called him Zulu and eventually my parents told me it was wrong and when I went to say sorry afterwards his family and him left because they hated their lives..
None of us knew it was bad or were really racist, it was one person brought up in a racist way or heard the racist joke from somewhere and it just breeds.
There are many factors, my pivotal factor was my parents who showed me i was wrong, the only way to deal with it if you hear a kid saying anything or doing anything of a discriminating manner talk to them nicely but firmly and explain why it is wrong.
I'm inter-racial and have been bullied my whole life for it. Racists don't understand the pain they inflict. Teachers should do much more to stop it.
I don't get bullied at all now; there are two reasons for this:
1. Most of the bullies where obnoxious assholes that dropped out at school
2. The rest where pussies and stopped stirring shit when confronted
I personally recommend the use of violence against racists.
At least that way it brings attention to the matter.
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I woudln't say take physical action against a person. If you have the knowledge or the money I suggest you pay someone to ruin their life. I mean like destroyed records and the identity. ^_^
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I refuse to believe the children didn't think this was bad. We all were kids. Who you fooling.
Certaintly they knew it was "bad" in that it was deliberately hurtful but there is a question of whether they wanted to hurt this kid's feelings because he was black, in other words, if it was motivated by racism, or whether they wanted to hurt this kids feelings because his language was odd and he knocked one of them over, and making fun of his national origin (although since he was from the gambia he wasn't zulu, that was still what they were refering to) was the easiest way to do that; in other words if it was motivated by personal disdain.
My guess is that, it was in fact the later...and the kids were not necessessarily aware that it would be interpreted as the former (as it would be likely if they were a few years older).
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Kids will generally be well...kids.
They are quite cruel to each other and differences can easily cause one child to be made fun of by others. Generally, if they are very young, they do not recognize the ramifications of their actions.
However, the problem begins if these feelings are harbored and left unresolved or unconfronted. Especially, as the kids grow, racial hatred can sometimes become an escape of sorts from other problems.
The solution is to confront racism wherever we find it whether it's in stereotypes, generalizations, or sometimes more dangerous and harmful practices.
