Corporate Control Of Abortion

**Mujer Libre** · 23rd June 2006, 02:50

I'm writing an article on corporate control of abortion services for a 'corporate watch' website/zine thing and I was wondering if anyone had good sources or links?

I need to focus on Australia, but I wouldn't mind some overseas information for comparison. I'm going to look at how the proliferation of private over public services pushes costs up and removes access for many women- and also at how corporatisation influences the types of services available- i.e. almost nobody has taken up RU486 yet, despite its legality.

And anything else that comes up would be good too.

**Mujer Libre** · 23rd June 2006, 02:50

I'm writing an article on corporate control of abortion services for a 'corporate watch' website/zine thing and I was wondering if anyone had good sources or links?

I need to focus on Australia, but I wouldn't mind some overseas information for comparison. I'm going to look at how the proliferation of private over public services pushes costs up and removes access for many women- and also at how corporatisation influences the types of services available- i.e. almost nobody has taken up RU486 yet, despite its legality.

And anything else that comes up would be good too.

**Mujer Libre** · 23rd June 2006, 02:50

I'm writing an article on corporate control of abortion services for a 'corporate watch' website/zine thing and I was wondering if anyone had good sources or links?

I need to focus on Australia, but I wouldn't mind some overseas information for comparison. I'm going to look at how the proliferation of private over public services pushes costs up and removes access for many women- and also at how corporatisation influences the types of services available- i.e. almost nobody has taken up RU486 yet, despite its legality.

And anything else that comes up would be good too.

**rioters bloc** · 23rd June 2006, 03:11

i don't actually know of anything, other than what i just googled with "abortion corporate influence" which you could do just as easily :P

but here's something which could or could not be useful (i'm betting on could not here..)

this is something one of my lecturers wrote:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3469

and here's the response:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3489

**rioters bloc** · 23rd June 2006, 03:11

i don't actually know of anything, other than what i just googled with "abortion corporate influence" which you could do just as easily :P

but here's something which could or could not be useful (i'm betting on could not here..)

this is something one of my lecturers wrote:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3469

and here's the response:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3489

**rioters bloc** · 23rd June 2006, 03:11

i don't actually know of anything, other than what i just googled with "abortion corporate influence" which you could do just as easily :P

but here's something which could or could not be useful (i'm betting on could not here..)

this is something one of my lecturers wrote:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3469

and here's the response:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3489

**Mujer Libre** · 23rd June 2006, 03:41

Originally posted by rioters bloc@Jun 23 2006, 01:12 AM
i don't actually know of anything, other than what i just googled with "abortion corporate influence" which you could do just as easily :P

but here's something which could or could not be useful (i'm betting on could not here..)

this is something one of my lecturers wrote:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3469

and here's the response:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3489

It wasn't really what I was looking for in the first place, but it gives me another idea. I could include a section on private interests influencing research and attitudes to abortion.

Thanks

**Mujer Libre** · 23rd June 2006, 03:41

Originally posted by rioters bloc@Jun 23 2006, 01:12 AM
i don't actually know of anything, other than what i just googled with "abortion corporate influence" which you could do just as easily :P

but here's something which could or could not be useful (i'm betting on could not here..)

this is something one of my lecturers wrote:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3469

and here's the response:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3489

It wasn't really what I was looking for in the first place, but it gives me another idea. I could include a section on private interests influencing research and attitudes to abortion.

Thanks

**Mujer Libre** · 23rd June 2006, 03:41

Originally posted by rioters bloc@Jun 23 2006, 01:12 AM
i don't actually know of anything, other than what i just googled with "abortion corporate influence" which you could do just as easily :P

but here's something which could or could not be useful (i'm betting on could not here..)

this is something one of my lecturers wrote:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3469

and here's the response:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/print.asp?article=3489

It wasn't really what I was looking for in the first place, but it gives me another idea. I could include a section on private interests influencing research and attitudes to abortion.

Thanks

TC · 23rd June 2006, 16:22

planned parenthood clinics offer abortion services at the minimum possible costs so i don\'t think there could be a \'corporate control of abortion\' in the US, i\'m not sure if there is an equivolent in australia.

TC · 23rd June 2006, 16:22

planned parenthood clinics offer abortion services at the minimum possible costs so i don\'t think there could be a \'corporate control of abortion\' in the US, i\'m not sure if there is an equivolent in australia.

TC · 23rd June 2006, 16:22

planned parenthood clinics offer abortion services at the minimum possible costs so i don\'t think there could be a \'corporate control of abortion\' in the US, i\'m not sure if there is an equivolent in australia.

**Mujer Libre** · 26th June 2006, 01:00

Originally posted by TragicClown@Jun 23 2006, 02:23 PM
planned parenthood clinics offer abortion services at the minimum possible costs so i don\'t think there could be a \'corporate control of abortion\' in the US, i\'m not sure if there is an equivolent in australia.

There are family planning services, and hospitals that perform abortions for free, but places are limited, especially if you have time constraints.

An early abortion at a private clinic costs around $250-300 I think.

It's not about total corporate control. But I'm almost certain that in the US there'd be places where publicly funded abortions are unavailable or too scarce so some private clinic has a monopoly.

TC · 26th June 2006, 01:03

well, i'm sure there are issues with scarcity in some rural areas, but then, thats true about any medical services, or for that matter, any services that require sophisticated technology and trained personal...so its hardly unique.

**Mujer Libre** · 27th June 2006, 01:55

Originally posted by TragicClown@Jun 25 2006, 11:04 PM
well, i'm sure there are issues with scarcity in some rural areas, but then, thats true about any medical services, or for that matter, any services that require sophisticated technology and trained personal...so its hardly unique.

Maybe. But this article is about abortion, not other services...

**EwokUtopia** · 17th July 2006, 02:51

Well, In Canada, where I live, abortions are done free of charge by hospitals as long as the women get them quick enough. Im not sure how quickly they have to go, but I think it is between 2 weeks and a month. Thats why you see so few clinics here, the majority dont need them. This is better because it encourages early abortion, which is far superior in every way (less risk, less work, less recovery time, less ill-side effects, less anxiety, less gossip....its just smarter). I dont know how things work down in the states, but I wouldnt be to surprised to see a billboard (as everything in america is done with) saying "Happyland Abortion Clinic: We'll bring the kid out in you! only $399.99!" or some such thing.

**Severian** · 17th July 2006, 06:35

As far as the U.S., most abortions are done in small clinics. The only major "chain" is Planned Parenthood, a nonprofit foundation. Most of the clinics are small businesses. Some are owned by the doctors.

It's not really an attractive field of investment for large businesses, considering they'd be targeted for picketing and possibly terrorist attacks.

**Mujer Libre** · 17th July 2006, 06:40

Thanks for the replies. I've been looking into Marie Stopes International and its links to some shadowy eugenics type groups from the 1970s... It's notoriously hard to find open information on this kind of thing, so any research would be much appreciated.

If anyone knows about the work of Betsy Hartmann- that'd be awesome too.

Edit: MSI is also known for its dodgy "development work" like providing abortion services at the same level as those already available, like abortion without anaesthesia.

**Severian** · 20th July 2006, 10:37

Now that's a problem I know a little about, the "population control"/ eugencis-related approach to abortion.......

Before the 70s, that was the dominant trend among those advocating legalization of abortion in the U.S. With the rise of feminism, there was a shift towards advocating legal abortion on women's rights grounds. Some pro-choice people made a point of demanding "No forced sterilization" alongside legal abortion, in order to distance themselves from the population control people.

I'm not sure if any of the population control types are involved in actually providing abortion services, unless there's some population-control influence inside Planned Parenthood.

**Mujer Libre** · 20th July 2006, 14:28

Originally posted by Severian@Jul 20 2006, 08:38 AM
Now that's a problem I know a little about, the "population control"/ eugencis-related approach to abortion.......

Before the 70s, that was the dominant trend among those advocating legalization of abortion in the U.S. With the rise of feminism, there was a shift towards advocating legal abortion on women's rights grounds. Some pro-choice people made a point of demanding "No forced sterilization" alongside legal abortion, in order to distance themselves from the population control people.

I'm not sure if any of the population control types are involved in actually providing abortion services, unless there's some population-control influence inside Planned Parenthood.

There are groups that supposedly dissolved in the 1970s, but still exist in a renamed form and have influence over current abortion providers. One of them is Population Services International and Population Services Europe (which is really closely linked to Marie Stopes International).

These groups ran abortion clinics with essentially sexist principles- one of their doctors in Sydney said that he "used women's ****s as ashtrays." This was back when doctors could smoke in theatre... They're also involved in population control in South Asia and Africa.

But I'm just rambling here. Severian, do you have any links or possible sources on the stuff you were talking about?

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