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    www.redwatch.info

    As you may or may not know, a young antifascist was stabbed in the back by some neo-nazis. They knew about his activites and were encouraged to take action thanks to this website which lists "Reds" in various parts of europe. I advise extreme vigilance if you find yourself on here. I highly engourage you to look through the lists and make sure your not on there.
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    Is it safe to visit the website? i.e. they won't place tracking cookies on your computer?
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    Hello,


    Thank you for your letter. The site has already been brought to our
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    This is what the webhosting service (DreamHost) replied when i asked for the website to be taken down.

    Hopscotch ant hill i just dont know exactly what kind of computer wizardry these Nazis have access too. Further more i dont think they have any reasons to make it easier for the (possibly) non-corrupt cops to track down users of the website.
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    Wear a mask!


    I don't think that sites coming down anytime soon.

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    Originally posted by razboz@May 25 2006, 06:52 PM
    www.redwatch.info

    As you may or may not know, a young antifascist was stabbed in the back by some neo-nazis. They knew about his activites and were encouraged to take action thanks to this website which lists "Reds" in various parts of europe. I advise extreme vigilance if you find yourself on here. I highly engourage you to look through the lists and make sure your not on there.
    When did this happen?

    To my knowledge redwatch is a joke, I've seen comrades pictures but with completely incorrect names and information
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    http://www.indymedia.org/en/

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    More information can obtained here. Permanet Revolution, i dont know if this website is entirely accurate. I just dont. However i have no doubt that there are others and they do log accurate records.
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    I've never seen any of my own comrades on it so I dont know. I browse it soemtimes just to see if anyones on it. It's really SWP watch.
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    I knew someone who is on there, but he knew it too. He was on another forum I visited. He hasn't logged on in a while though.
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    Haha, we used to have a site like this for the Netherlands called "S.O.S. Politically Incorrect" and swiped the domain "antifa.nl" or something(it seems to be down now). It has been inactive since the Summer of 2004, and apparently for their "security" they felt it necessary to release photographs and phone numbers of some of my comrades. Although they probably aren&#39;t as scary as redwatch.

    Oh, and I once received a threat by e-mail from the Protest Warriors because I made fun of them on Soviet Empire. I would have felt slightly more threatened if what they called "my" address actually was my address.
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    Originally posted by Matthijs@May 25 2006, 05:51 PM
    Haha, we used to have a site like this for the Netherlands called "S.O.S. Politically Incorrect" and swiped the domain "antifa.nl" or something(it seems to be down now). It has been inactive since the Summer of 2004, and apparently for their "security" they felt it necessary to release photographs and phone numbers of some of my comrades. Although they probably aren&#39;t as scary as redwatch.

    Oh, and I once received a threat by e-mail from the Protest Warriors because I made fun of them on Soviet Empire. I would have felt slightly more threatened if what they called "my" address actually was my address.
    I debate on the protest warrior forums. They are a bunch of morons and compared to Red Watch they are teddy bears.

    Do you know one of them going on the online name, Leviatihian? She claims that she hung out with anarchists and that she hates them now and she is waging a personal vendetta against all anarchists as well as indymedia.org and other sites. I hate her to the bone. She is a racist and a capitalist. I don&#39;t believe her story either. How does one go from being an anti capitalist anarchist to a racist capitalist?

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    Hello,


    Thank you for your letter. The site has already been brought to our
    attention and our Abuse department is handling it.


    Regards,

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    This is what the webhosting service (DreamHost) replied when i asked for the website to be taken down.

    Hopscotch ant hill i just dont know exactly what kind of computer wizardry these Nazis have access too. Further more i dont think they have any reasons to make it easier for the (possibly) non-corrupt cops to track down users of the website.
    I got a feeling this won&#39;t happen. It never does. If you got that via email or even typed letter it could have been an automated response.
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    Is there any sort of site like this that operates in the US?
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    Originally posted by FinnMacCool@May 25 2006, 11:13 PM
    I debate on the protest warrior forums. They are a bunch of morons and compared to Red Watch they are teddy bears.
    Heh, I once went to their Dutch forum to confront them with their dumbass "threat", but that whole forum was dead, nobody was posting there anymore apart from two regulars masturbating on how much Cuba sucks.

    Do you know one of them going on the online name, Leviatihian? She claims that she hung out with anarchists and that she hates them now and she is waging a personal vendetta against all anarchists as well as indymedia.org and other sites. I hate her to the bone. She is a racist and a capitalist. I don&#39;t believe her story either. How does one go from being an anti capitalist anarchist to a racist capitalist?
    Haha, no, don&#39;t think so.
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    Originally posted by Blackflag Skirmisher@May 25 2006, 08:58 PM
    Is there any sort of site like this that operates in the US?
    If there is, I&#39;m probably on it. ...
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    Originally posted by Blackflag Skirmisher@May 25 2006, 08:58 PM
    Is there any sort of site like this that operates in the US?
    If there is, I&#39;m probably on it. ...
    good smily combination lol. Anyhow there is something like Redwatch in America and it&#39;s called a Tax audit&#33; lol.
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    I was wondering "Does our side have something like RedWatch? say Capitalist Watch, or Fascist Watch?"

    And i realised its called "Fortune".
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    Originally posted by razboz@Jun 4 2006, 12:53 PM
    I was wondering "Does our side have something like RedWatch? say Capitalist Watch, or Fascist Watch?"

    And i realised its called "Fortune".
    Antifa would know of all the main players, what they do, how they do it, and who is involved is all closed infomation.
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    Originally posted by razboz@May 25 2006, 08:07 PM
    http://www.indymedia.org/en/

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    More information can obtained here. Permanet Revolution, i dont know if this website is entirely accurate. I just dont. However i have no doubt that there are others and they do log accurate records.
    Publicizing this is in the interests of the ruling classes - to keep us on the run and scare people away from Socialist groups with the threat of "intelligence-gathering", "professional" anti-communist groups

    Fine if we keep each other aware and on our toes but I don&#39;t like the idea that being a Socialist is &#39;dangerous&#39; as that&#39;s exactly what Redwatch wants
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    These pigs can be countered, check out klanwatch.com and you can find an intelligence report on the current activities of hate groups plus a map of the U.S. showing groups and where there located.
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    Is it safe to visit the website? i.e. they won&#39;t place tracking cookies on your computer?
    Only corporations do that. How would they distinguish between leftists and fascists?

    Now, if you were to post on Stormfront against fascism, etc. then there may be some problems as the mods could trace your IP address and find out where you live unless you had a proxy.

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