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    What do you guys think about this?
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    Two men or two women can bring up a child just as well as a man and a woman. Both men and woman can be loving, caring and paternal, so why should it matter what the biological sex of each parnt is?
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    Originally posted by ThisAnarchistKillsNazis@May 18 2006, 08:00 PM
    Two men or two women can bring up a child just as well as a man and a woman. Both men and woman can be loving, caring and paternal, so why should it matter what the biological sex of each parnt is?
    I agree on that, but when I ask anyone if they support adoption, they´ll say no. And when I ask why they don´t support it, they´ll always say if I would like to have two fathers, instead of a mother and a father. I find this argument to be a bit ridiculous, but I don´t know how to refute it...
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    Agree with Anarchist. Just as long as the child is raised with love and care and guidance, he/she can be adopted by anyone. I wouldn't be against trios raising children.
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    there is proof that 2 dads or 2 moms can raise a kid just as good if not, better than a dad and a mom. it even makes the child more open-minded and tolerant and less likely to be like most of the other closed-minded Christians in this country.
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    Almost all the leftists on this forum support adoption by homosexuals. The only reason to be against it is to believe there is something wrong with homosexuality. Although some liberals accept it, they still believe heterosexual is superior, and, for that reason, people think a child should ideally be raised by straight parents. However, similiar logic is used to criticism single parents and other non-traditional concepts of family.
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    Originally posted by MonicaTTmed@May 18 2006, 02:20 PM
    Agree with Anarchist. Just as long as the child is raised with love and care and guidance, he/she can be adopted by anyone. I wouldn't be against trios raising children.
    didnt anyone see full house, 3 men raised those kids pretty well.
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    It has been proven that a child is better of being raised by a loving couple of the same sex than an unstable heterosexual couple (I dont have a source, I heard this in a lecture on adoption). In terms of development of the child there is no apparant difference between kids raised by a homosexual couple and those by a heterosexual couple.

    I find this argument to be a bit ridiculous, but I don´t know how to refute it...
    Why dont you ask that person if they were rasied in by homosexual parants, if they say no than you can tell them that there assumption is based on nothing but oppressive christian and socital ideas about the traditional family. Then point them to the research done on the topic, tell them to talk to people from a family with same sex parents and tell them if they do not inform themeselves on the topic than they have no right to make oppressive assumptions such as this!
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    It has been proven that a child is better of being raised by a loving couple of the same sex than an unstable heterosexual couple (I dont have a source, I heard this in a lecture on adoption). In terms of development of the child there is no apparant difference between kids raised by a homosexual couple and those by a heterosexual couple.

    I find this argument to be a bit ridiculous, but I don´t know how to refute it...
    Why dont you ask that person if they were rasied in by homosexual parants, if they say no than you can tell them that there assumption is based on nothing but oppressive christian and socital ideas about the traditional family. Then point them to the research done on the topic, tell them to talk to people from a family with same sex parents and tell them if they do not inform themeselves on the topic than they have no right to make oppressive assumptions such as this!
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    Family is family.

    A child can be raised well by either a homosexual or heterosexual couple. It really doesn't matter.

    And if the person you talk to asks 'how would you like to have 2 daddies?', well, that's unanswerable unless one has two daddies. So tell them to go ask a child in that scenario. But I've never heard publicly of any complaints of the children. (with the Christian right anti-queers, one would think we would have seen something by now)
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    Nuclear families are bad...unlike couple which might be financially autonomous from each other, or groups of same aged friends or possibly extended relatives living together, childrens financial depedence on parents as well as their considerably limited social access to others creates a situation of necessarily unequal power dynamics, and most parents exploit it. Nearly all feel they're entitled to.

    That said i don't see why gay couples would fuck their kids up more than straight couples...The only disadvantage is that, since statistically they'd have to assume that any child they adopt would probably turn out straight, they'd not be in as good of a position to give dating advice when they're in their teens...although most straight parents aren't cool enough to do it in a non-harmful way anyways so maybe its better that way.

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    The only harm to children raised by same-sex parents is the damage that can be done to them by everyone else (Bigots and the like).
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    The only harm to children raised by same-sex parents is the damage that can be done to them by everyone else (Bigots and the like).

    Yup i agree here. While there wouldn't be any emotional of mental damage done to the child directly by their homosexual parents it would be done by the unaccepting society as a whole. I know it's screwed hey.
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    Seriously, how can someone factually and non-biasedly say whether or not a child is better living in a house with hetro or homo parents?

    Beyond that, who the fuck cares?
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    What the hell should it matter? I don&#39;t care if you&#39;re gay or straight, they can all provide love and care for children. I don&#39;t see what the problem that some people have with this is, it&#39;s stupid. I think that all people should be treated as equal and by not allowing them to adopt, society is taking ten steps backwards.
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    Anybody who isnt a serial rapist or a neoconservative should be able to adopt, regardless of heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, asexual, whatever.
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    It doesn&#39;t who you like to fuck, and that many for that matter, for none of that matters when raising a child and only violent and psychotic people shouldn&#39;t be allowed to adopt kids. It&#39;s none of your goddamn business if I, a polygamist, wants to adopt a kid or not. Just because I&#39;m a polygamist doesn&#39;t mean my kids will be polygamists. Hell, they have the same chances of becoming polygamists as they do becoming monogamists.

    The same applies to homosexuals adopting kids; it doesn&#39;t matter who brings you up, because even children are their own people and don&#39;t become exactly like their parents. Hell, if that were true most of us wouldn&#39;t be communists&#33; Not to mention that homosexuality is genetically inhereted and not a choice whatsoever.
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    Originally posted by Erik The Communist@May 22 2006, 11:02 PM
    Just because I&#39;m a polygamist doesn&#39;t mean my kids will be polygamists.
    But lets sure as hell hope they become polygamists&#33;

    I think its fine to have homosexuals adopt children, but overall they will fuck up the kids just as much as the heterosexual parents. If anything is dangerous to the kid, its simply having to be brought up by two individual humans, and have to go through the process of indoctrination and subtle emotional damage.

    Then again maybe thats good for the child. No matter what my point is, the kid is fucked. However i think its better off with the Polygamists.
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    Originally posted by Gunman@May 18 2006, 08:18 PM
    I agree on that, but when I ask anyone if they support adoption, they´ll say no. And when I ask why they don´t support it, they´ll always say if I would like to have two fathers, instead of a mother and a father. I find this argument to be a bit ridiculous, but I don´t know how to refute it...
    Try "I&#39;d rather have 2 fathers instead of no parents at all." It&#39;s not like wer&#39;e kidnapping kids away from straight couples; these are kids who wouldn&#39;t have any parents at all if no one adopted them. By denying homosexuals the right to adopt kids, they are also denying some children parents.
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