Forever Pregnant.

[Andy Bowden]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...1500875_pf.html

Congratulations! All female US citizens are now offically baby-making machines!

Kuche, Kirche und Kinder!

<_<

[overthrowthebeast726]

Oh yeah? :angry: Of course I&#39;d resist...and it&#39;s things like this that make me want to have a child less and less...how about more birth control options?

[RevMARKSman]

Bullshit. I don&#39;t plan to have a kid. And I don&#39;t plan to give anyone a chance to get me pregnant. <looks for "spitting at feet" smiley> Oh well... :hammer:

[TC]

:angry: this really pisses me off so much. :angry:

CDC documents can be found here: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5506a1.htm

Another article on it:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06136/690639-114.stm

"Thus, a woman seeing her allergist or orthopedist might be asked whether she plans to get pregnant soon. Every woman would be checked for rubella immunity, and offered vaccination if needed. A surgeon performing bariatric surgery may also prescribe contraceptives so patients don&#39;t wind up expecting at the same time they are rapidly losing weight. The goal would be to make something called "preconception care" as common as prenatal care -- but for all women of childbearing age, from teens on. "

"The CDC is attempting to standardize preconception care by more doctors, social workers and nurses -- and bring it more proactively into women&#39;s lives, perhaps even with posters and brochures in places like hair salons, says Hani K. Atrash, one of the guidelines&#39; authors and associate director for program development of CDC&#39;s National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities."

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I think this is really increadibly upseting, that the US government would take advantage of women seeing their doctors for totally unrelated health issues to try to push the idea that they need to doing things with their bodies, not for their own benefit, but for the benefit of potential children that they don&#39;t even want. Two of the recomendations in particular, that women who don&#39;t even want to get pregnant should take folic acid every day and have routine bloodwork done to check for rubella immunity, treatments and tests which are of absolutely no benefit to the health of adults and only useful for the health of fetuses they don&#39;t even want.

Whats even worse is that the CDC recomends that women who could get pregnant not be perscribed medications like Accutane or valproic acid, which while really important to the people who take them, can cause birth defects if taken while pregnant. Maybe the most absurd recomendation though, is for women should be told by their doctors to abstain from drinking alcoholic beverages even when they&#39;re not pregnant or intending to get pregnant out of the idea that it might harm a fetus they were not yet aware of (but, naturally this being the US government, fully expected to carry to term).

One of the even more perverse recomendations the CDC makes is "activities to modify personal knowledge and attitudes and behaviors related to reproductive risk factors and the use of a reproductive life plan for women" and that "personal behaviors, psychosocial risks, and environmental exposures associated with negative pregnancy outcomes can be identified and modified before conception through clinical interventions. For certain conditions, opportunities for preventive interventions occur only before conception." In other words, if someone&#39;s attitude is that they shouldn&#39;t have to change their behavior for the sake of a hypothetical fetus they don&#39;t want, its a doctors job to make them change their attitude.

The justification behind getting doctors (and apparently hair salons&#33 to harrass women to behave as if they&#39;re going to have a child even if they don&#39;t want one, is the idea that a good deal of pregnancies are unplanned, so a good deal of people who are pregnant wont be aware of it immediately and could be unintentionally hurting their "child." To assume that unplanned pregnancies would or should lead to unplanned children is quite a fucked up presumption to begin with. Instead of trying to get everyone to structure their lives around the possibility that they might be pregnant, they should look at unwanted pregnancy as any other sexually transmitted diesese and try to facilitate early detection and treatment so people can get minimally invasive abortions. Instead they&#39;re trying to ban non-surgical abortions and get doctors to treat their patients as if they&#39;re both incapable of avoiding pregnancy and under an obligation to have children if they have an accident.

[C_Rasmussen]

Yeah thats nice...<_<. Return of Nazi Germany anyone? This is kind of like it if you think about it because back then females were encouraged to have as many kids as possible (kind of like what this article implies) and they were awarded for having many kids. Who can see the US going to that system? <_<

[Body Count]

Unbelievable.

Women being made into Baby Pods......

[EwokUtopia]

Perhaps every straight person is just pre-gay. Thats about as true as the whole pre-pregnant thing. Sometimes it is true, but the assumption of which is just a conservative attempt at promoting the whole dominant masculine husband, submissive effeminant wife, 2.5 children and 3 SUV lifestyle, and everybody here see&#39;s it.

[TC]

Dan Savage (Who i&#39;ve taken to quoting as a source of general wisdom rather than Mao) writes in the May 25 - May 31, 2006 addition of The Stranger:

Color me paranoid, but ordering American women to regard themselves as "pre-pregnant" because they may harm a fetus they don&#39;t know they&#39;re carrying opens the door to prosecuting women who harm their fetuses by failing to regard themselves as "pre-pregnant." How long until "women should... refrain from smoking [and] maintain a healthy body weight" becomes "women must..." Does that sound paranoid? Well, so did a war on contraception once.

Oddly enough, Bush&#39;s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention doesn&#39;t urge straight men to regard themselves as existing in a perpetual state of "pre-fatherhood." Smoking, obesity, asthma, and diabetes could seriously hamper a man&#39;s ability to do the heavy lifting that comes with fatherhood. But Bush&#39;s CDC doesn&#39;t seem that interested in regulating the behavior of all those fat, smoking pre-fathers out there.

Gee. Isn&#39;t. That. Weird.

[Nicky Scarfo]

Yeah, this is total bullshit.

Anyhow, this is small potatoes, but a pet peeve of mine and I&#39;m gonna bring it up here &#39;cause the article made me think of it--

Anyone notice these new parking spots in supermarkets and such reserved for "customers with children"? Fuck that, I say-- why are we rewarding procreation? Why the fuck should I park further away just cause I didn&#39;t choose to have rug-rats?

I mean, if the customer is pregnant, that&#39;s one thing. Or handicapped. But just cause you have kids you&#39;re bringing to the supermarket you get a good parking spot? Fuck all that. I park in those spots. They had to fight for parking just like everyone else before, they can do it again.

What kind of fucking society do we live in? Families don&#39;t necessarily have a right to medical insurance or decent housing, but they have a right to good parking? This country&#39;s got some seriously fucked-up priorities.

[SocialistGenius]

Ridiculous. I agree that this is basically condemning women to being &#39;baby-making machines&#39;.

How about trying to lower the infant mortality rate by decreasing the poverty caused by the oppressive capitalist system that we live in?

[overthrowthebeast726]

^Exactly&#33;