I'm against rape, no matter what the person has done..Do you want to give us a tag for being rapers of other men?
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Don't be afraid of the big bad nazi scum. Get a group together and raid nazi hangouts. Graffiti the place up using red paint. Pick the biggest nazi guy you can find and bum-rush him. Beat him within an inch of his life. Peace is a poor weapon against hatred. Fight back; start a revolution.
I'm against rape, no matter what the person has done..Do you want to give us a tag for being rapers of other men?
I don't think that's what he meant, here's something from the Urban Dictionary:
Bum Rush: (1) The act of attacking someone or something (usually by a group)with the reckless abandon and fervor of one who has nothing to loose. (2) when there's a hot concert and a bunch of people wiht no tickets just rush through the gates. Usually done by homeless bum's. [sic]
Anyway this thread seems pointless. "Woo go beat up a nazi!"
Gee, thanks. Is that the only suggestion you got?
I'm just tired of my red brothers and sisters being put down. Rise up, fight back.
What's the situation in your town? Are nazi groups openly organizing or having social gatherings without any opposition? Have there been recent physical attacks against radical groups by right wingers?
There's a truce now but before I came out and declared myself a commie the other reds were always put down. I don't know why most devout communists are so small. I fought the biggest nazi leader and won. Now us reds have respect. I know it's juvenile but as long as everything is calm for now I'm okay with it.
Is this something happening just in your school, or your whole town?
Why advocate the use of preemptive "fascist tactics" against the nazis when there is currently a truce in your own area?
I know street cred and respect are important, but are they ends unto themselves?
EDIT: Just so nobody is confused, I am in no way against preemptive self-defense against Nazis and other authoritarian groups. My question relates to if making the Nazis respect us to the point of truce is enough? Shouldn't we be going further? Isn't that what you're suggesting originally?
It was bad when I was in high school but it's calmed down now. I have had threats upon my house, graffiti and such. I mainly want other reds to learn that there's strength in numbers.
Beating up fascists isn't using "fascist tactics."
Why a truce? I think history shows pretty clearly how well that works...
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
Right on. In addition the anti-fascist struggle presents our single best opportunity for practical training in a lot of the things we need to be learning anyway, like street solidarity. They're also an easy way to ratchet up cred for yourself, which in the "Left" is the main thing you need if you're ever going to get more than five people together.
Exactly.
By truce I mean we don't mess with them they don't mess with us. If they move first we bring down the hammer and cut-cross the sickle.
Fuck that. Their very existence is a threat to all of you, as well as any people of color, Jews, non-hetero folks and others in the community. Letting them go about their business as long as they "don't mess with you" is basically giving them free reign to organize and that cannot be allowed to happen. You don't wait until your garden is full of weeds to start picking them!
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
But all that does is give them the space to organize and regroup, and then by the time they do come after you, you may find your hammer isn't big enough...
Why not just get a group together to raid their hangouts, graffiti it up with red paint, and then bum rush them?
Ok but seriously: NO TOLERANCE. Even if they've been forced to back off your group, that doesn't mean they won't come back, and it certainly doesn't mean they won't be terrorizing other people in the meantime. You've got their respect, now push the advantage. If they're on the run, hit 'em in the back. Who cares?
Make them know the community isn't safe for them. Publicly out them where they work and live.
Geez Nachie...
I think we should just choose one of us to reply in this thread, we both keep saying the same stuff.
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
It's a two faced coin. I can start an all out war and risk not getting backup from fellow reds or let them be while they grow stronger and then start a war themselves.
Secure the back-up of your comrades first, I can't imagine any serious "reds" who wouldn't recognize the need to fight them before they get organized and strong.
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
One's only the risk of a beatdown now and the other is a guaranteed beatdown later.
Contact anti-racist action (ARA) and they can probably send people into your town to back you up.
Shit it happened again! :blush:
ARA is usually made up of communists and anarchists, if they hear gotro sprouting off shit like he's doing in OI then they will probably kick him to within an inch of his life first. (i know i would)
Where the hell do all these militant Stalinists keep coming from?
