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    Ah that is great
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    I find it great that people want to honor him. But I'm not sure what Che would make of this personality cult that has grown around him.
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    I find it great that people want to honor him. But I'm not sure what Che would make of this personality cult that has grown around him.
    you have reason, but if this serves to diffuse its ideas I believe that it would be happy

    excuse me for my bad english :P
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    I think that Che would smile at the people admiring him and would say that communist ideas made him the person he is. Also, he may have laughed saying that he had other pics where he was older...

    I have tears in my eyes when I think that he could have been alive to say those words...

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    Where are you from Tanya that you do not know english very well?
    Hi claro de luna&#33;
    I live in Italy&#33; We two live in two near nations (Italy-Albania)...I&#39;m happy
    Welcome in che-lives&#33;
    You know to speak a little about Italian? (I know that in Albania some see the italian television, it&#39;s true)
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    Brilliant, I must visit Belfast one day.
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    Whereabouts in Belfast is that mural redflag?
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    To tell you the truth I think he&#39;d be both happy, but also annoyed. Happy because of the people that follow his ideals, yet annoyed because his shirts have become a capitalist sham.... <_<
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    That&#39;s a beautifully done mural. I wish I had that kind of skill

    And I think Che would be pissed off that his face is being used as a tool for capitalists to make money.
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    Brilliant, I must visit Belfast one day.
    Yeah, me too. What a wonderful city it must be&#33; Also, for the Lenin statue in Belfast: http://www.connection.se/hem/anders/resor/...ild/belfast.jpg
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    why is there a lenin statue and che mural in belfast? I mean sure, its great but seems pretty random, would understand in more in latin america or russia. didnt think there would be many lefties in belfast.
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    Well, the Lenin statue is just for commercializing a bar called Kremlin. Actually it is pretty sad, a little ironic maybe...

    I know that there is a Lenin statue in Seattle and it is not for mocking or commercializing
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    Originally posted by BOZG@May 4 2006, 08:47 AM
    Whereabouts in Belfast is that mural redflag?
    Beechmount, round the corner from &#39;Flanigan&#39;s Solicitors&#39;. It&#39;s opposite the Culturlann if you know that place. Might be a bit tatty now, I can&#39;t remember whether they redone it or not

    Also BOZG, there&#39;s a new Connolly mural on the Falls

    why is there a lenin statue and che mural in belfast?
    Cause we&#39;re all raving mad commies&#33; :hammer:
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    Beechmount, round the corner from &#39;Flanigan&#39;s Solicitors&#39;.
    Yeah, it&#39;s also just around the corner from Republican Sinn Fein&#39;s office on the Falls. <_<

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    Originally posted by drain.you@May 13 2006, 03:15 PM
    why is there a lenin statue and che mural in belfast? I mean sure, its great but seems pretty random, would understand in more in latin america or russia. didnt think there would be many lefties in belfast.
    You dont know much about republicanism i take it comrade? :P
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    Originally posted by claro de luna@May 3 2006, 06:48 PM


    I have tears in my eyes when I think that he could have been alive to say those words...

    No offense here, but i think this is the kind of thing he wouldnt like. Because right there lies a flavor of personality cult.

    However despite the personality cult around him, he has become a great symbol of internationalism and the socialist movement. In the Americas however, his symbol seems to be very Pan-American.
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    I&#39;m pretty sure I&#39;ve seen the Belfast mural. Which part of the wall is it on?

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    And I think Che would be pissed off that his face is being used as a tool for capitalists to make money.
    Not disagreeing with you, but those paintings, flags, ect were not actually for the capitalists. Most were rather pro-left. Its not really helping the capitalists there.
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