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Games available for free online, such as Border Control, where you must shoot Mexicans crossing the border (including Pregnate Women from the highest score), are now a days at easy access to children. How do you suppose we stop getting these games near young, impressionable children. The children are our future poeple.
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Well, unfortunetly there really is no way to stop them. The internet really is one of the last frontiers. They are free to do what they want.
There are so many hate sites on the web. It would be impossible to take down all of them.
To get rid of them we would have to change people's opinions. This is certainly a difficult task. I think it would be easiest to wait for the revolution.
Waitings boring and annoying *blows hair out of eyes and pouts*
There are lots of games with rather unsavory (that is, reactionary) assumptions "built-in".
What we need are communist "game builders" who will develop games with communist assumptions "built-in".
Imagine a game "Asymetric Warfare" where the player can choose to be the powerful imperialist OR the guerrilla resistance.
But the coding is rigged...no matter what strategy the imperialist chooses, he always loses.
The guerrilla resistance always wins...very slowly if the player is new at the game but very quickly if the player is very experienced.
It would be especially useful if versions of such games were available for Linux and Mac systems...since people who use those systems are more likely to be receptive to a "communist message".
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As absolutely sick as this game sounds i think we need to recognize that video games don't cause violence. I would guess that maybe violent people are more likely to play violent video games and thats where any association between video games and violence comes from.
I sort of find this attitude a little disturbing. A lot of hysteria comes from people trying to zealously protect "the children", often from themselves! Part of wanting to protect children comes from the fact that they're quite vulnerable to all sorts of victimization by adults, and thats totally correct and appropriate, but a lot of what people (mostly parents) call "being protective" has to do with instead controling their behavior and values, and thats really not right...its authoritarianism on a small scale against people that can't stand up against it.
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Hmm, there are two problems: the fact that it's rigged won't make it playable for a very long time since those who take games seriously might get frustrated at it, and that it might make reactionaries even more reactionary and hateful towards the guerrilla group when they realize they can't win and might want to go out and start killing communists or whatever. This is of course assuming those reactionary gamers are really stupid as to take it very seriously, but since they are reactionaries stupidity is assumed to be the "default" option.Originally posted by redstar2000@Apr 27 2006, 04:39 AM
Imagine a game "Asymetric Warfare" where the player can choose to be the powerful imperialist OR the guerrilla resistance.
But the coding is rigged...no matter what strategy the imperialist chooses, he always loses.
And concerning the "racist game", I doubt it is such a big problem. I don't think kids get their ideas from videogames, and now that racism is mostly seen as undesirable or something that should be hidden behind politically correct wording, I suppose the odds of a game turning kids into racists or tolerants of racism are pretty small.
I remember myself playing Carmageddon 2 and having a lot of fun but I never went out and started smashing people in a car with a guillotine or spikes on the front because its fun to see their heads fall off or get bonus for killing more than 1 person at once or to smash dogs against a building's wall. Although I dont know the impact would have been the same if I was 8 years old or so when playing it.
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Like me - i often play San Andreas and blow up police cars and shoot dead cops, but I'm not about to go out and do those things.
Even so, these hate games still carry a poisonous message.
Answer - we don't. What we do is make it very clear that these games are disgusting, racist propaganda and that we disapprove of them most seriously.
Precisely. The internet is a place of free speech, where all are free to promote whatever message they want to. We cannot conquer the reactionary and the hateful by shutting down their websites; our only course, then, is to set up our own sites to combat them.
Let's make one now. What shall we call it?
How about revolutionaryleft.com?
Don't make excuses. There are people out there now working to change people's opinions (I should know, I'm one of them), and, in a way, it is working - you must admit, though racism is still a serious problem, it is less widespread and less socially accepted than it once was. This is thanks to people who know that we don't have to wait for a revolution to fight discrimination.
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if anything i think that children need to be exposed to these types of games so they can form their own opinions about this.
ofcourse this needs to be followed by a discussion and history lessons about the source of this violence.
kids (and adults since i know many that are oblivious to the source of violence and choose to ignore it) should not be shielded from reality instead they need to be confronted with it.
otherwise they are doomed to repeat past mistakes.
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oh man...I played that a couple of times... :blush: my stupidity knew no bounds
Personally I don't think a kid is going to turn to the right by playing that game - they probably wouldn't play it unless they partly felt that way to begin with. It's similar with right-wing music, some kid will probably just find Skrewdriver or whatnot disgusting unless they already feel that way to begin with to some extent (though there's always peer pressure....)
Anyways to conquer it I think the best way would be with our own music and our own games - I've made a couple of simple games on my computer before (nothing too complicated) and it wasn't too hard. I reckon a Red version of "border patrol" could easily be put about, but then again, I think simply educating people that Left-wing is not simply murderous Stalinism is also very effective.
thats why i love san andreas, as games go
That is disgusting. How can they get away with that. Although I wish so much we could do something about it, its impossible like other people said. They internet is not moderated.
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True, it's not: and while this "Border Control" bollocks disgusts me, in a time when freedom of speech is rapidly being eroded, I think we should be glad that there exists something that is not moderated. If ever they successfully restrict commies from stating their views, we'll always have the internet.
Let's fight Border Control the only way we can - by voicing our opposition to it.
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Well why not?
As for the main topic, why not just make our own game where you have to shoot La Migra instead?
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GTA IS FUCKIN SWEET! I played this game once where you play as a mexican on a bicycle with a sombrero on his head. you had to dodge border patrol by jumping over their pick-ups. it was fun.
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