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Historians are the key to destroying fascism (I always use a small f to emphasise my disdain for this foolish ideology).
Only through the study of history can we find our weapons to defeat our right-wing foes.
It is through the study of history that we learn that all nations are intertwined. It is through the study of history that we learn that cultures are not entirely separate but linked.
Let me take England for an example.
A classic English dish: Fish and Chips. This is actually a Jewish dish.
A classic English hero: Robin Hood. Many believe was actually French.
A classic English drink: Tea. Originates from Asia.
There are many more examples. These all show that all cultures are linked and therefore holding one above the others is absurd.
Through the study of history we can reveal such details and many more about our cultures and prove that we have a lot more in common that we think, a powerful weapon against the hierarchical race theory central to many fascist movements.
Well I can see where you are coming from but this does nothing to combat facism, a lot of facists may already know those above facts yet choose to ignore them. Facists may also use history to destroy left wing arguements by using examples such as Stalin.
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Indeed, it works both ways. But, you cannot deny that this reduces the fuel for fascist propaganda. If the nation is educated about its history and therefore understands the connections between its own culture and others, any ideology claiming the uniqueness and superiority of that nation's culture will automatically be viewed critically.
The key is to know history as it really was. It is difficult considering all the crap you are served at school.
Most people forget to look at how the conditions really were, what the politics really were, etc. and look instead at definitions and ideas only.
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No, actually, I think 7189 has a very good point.
Rightwingers may (and do) try to discredit communism with talk of Stalin. However this doesn't alter the fact that Stalinism is not a rationall or historically valid rebuttal of Marxist theory.
However the nationalist ideology is entirely based on the anti-historical. (Read Eric Hobsbawm on this, he's very good). To quote Ernest Renan:
Forgetting, I would even go as far as to say historical error, is a crucial factor in the creation of a nation; this the progress of historical studies is often a danger for national identity.
The very concept of a nation is an entirely abstract concept, an idealist notion. All concepts derived from it are therefor also equally confined in reality to human mind. Advancded historiographical studies - ie. the study of men and societies in material reality is therefore one of the best methods to combat irrational ideologies. It forces argument to be played out on a field restricted to material reality, it dispels the myths and false legitimacies that feual nationalistic and fascist thought.
History is utterly essential in the war of ideas.
'Philosophy which begins with a thought without reality necesserily ends with a reality without thought.' - Feuerbach
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No, an organized working class is key to defeating fascism, not some pseudo-intellectuals.
Both of these are not true...
This is, not that these facts make any difference it's just that calling Robin Hood French is like calling Joan of Arc English. As for fish and chips being Jewish, maybe a little evidence?
The reason why history destroys communism is because communism hasn't reached it's historical moment yet, and so every communist regime has turned out to be facsist or feudalist in structure because the structure derives from the technology - no matter the initial idealism of the supposed communists.
Communism's time will be when it naturally evolves out of capitalism just as capitalism did out of feudalism. The change in political structure will follow very easily.
History hasn't attacked communism, the re-writen revisionist history has. And how can you say both be untrue if you don't know about it.
Structure does not derive from technology, will a new Ipod make me be a better communist? Will faster internet allow me to post more retarded half-thought out statements on the internet? Will the working class be more ready to take state power with a faster airplane? Will a laser beam do better then an ak-47?
You don't understand communism if you think we are just saying, "Preach the gospel and the doors will open for us".
Revolution does not evolve, thats why its not called a Revolution rather then an Evolution.
The mainstream media is shrinking in the face of blogs, gnn, and millions of other similar things. Technology is handing the economy from bug companies back to the people, just like trade (through better naval technology etc.) took the economy out of the government (feudalism) and into the companies. No revolution was needed except to rectify that economic fact into a poliutical one, and a revolution wasn't needed in every country.
Umm no, viewship in the mainstream media has not fallen. Look at statistics not idiocy. GNN has not been very active for awhile now. Blogs are becoming mainstream, half the blogs are not producing new media rather then idiots posting what they hear on the mainstream media. There has always been alternative media, In canada there has been the people's voice thats almost as old as the communist party, theres zines, theres magazines, theres the Worker's Forum, theres leaflets and other things. People are not becoming any more intelligent just lazily able to post their thoughts.
And No fuedalism did not fall because they built a better galleon. There has always been international trade, back to the egyptians, romans, and babylonians. Before Fuedalism and slave society, even in Communal life there has been trade.
English food sucks so much if you celebrate fish and chips like it's something amazing. It's tasty enough, but fuck it's not that good.
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An organised working class? Elaborate. Even fascist movements held the working class in high esteem. Ever heard of the Volksgemeinschaft in Nazi Germany? The main difference between fascism and socialism is not about classes but about racial theories. True socialists (and not Stalinist pseudo-socialist nationalists)believe all races are equal. Fascists hold their own above others. You have clearly misunderstood something here.
And what gives you the right to say historians are pseudo-intellectuals? Are you implying that the study of history is unworthy? Only a fool could make such an implication.
For evidence relating to the fish and chips I believe I read it in Jeremy Paxman's recent book on the English, and I'm not 'calling Robin Hood French' I am referring to a historiographical debate about the origins of the legend which has alternated between the England and France.
History does not destroy Communism. Dialectical Materialism? I hope you know about this, it's at the heart of Marxist theory.
Structure derives from the technology? I don't understand. Elaborate please.
You imply that we should just sit back and do nothing, a true Menshevik. With an enemy as tenacious and violent as fascism I believe this policy to be flawed, but each to his own.
Of course it has...I for one no longer buy any newspapers...
Which is my point! Technology is resdistributing the economy and inevitably will.
First you have production (localised and unprofessional) then you have mass production (centralzied but professional) and then you have new production (localized and professional).
I'm not celebrating it as something amazing but it is an aspect of English culture, or at least was, before all the Doner kebab places started popping up. One could even say the Doner is an aspect of English culture, or the curry, but both have their origins abroad.
Obviously you have been subjected to second rate fish 'n' chips. If it is good you can't beat it, with the single exception of roast lamb.
As for it being the product of Jewish immigrants, that is in part true. Deap fried fish was indeed brought to Britain by immigrants in the 18th and 19th century. However deap fried potato, in the manner we see today, was invented in the north somewhere. However the combined dish, fish 'n' chips is definatly a meal which origionated in Britain.
Thanks to Wikipeadia, the fount of knowledge, for that usless fact.
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Probably not, English fish is of very low quality and makes for poor eating, Haddock and Cod and that sort of thing isn't exactly a delicassie. Whereas Australian fish and chips is often made with what are widely regarded internationally as the best two freshwater fish in terms of eating, the Murray Cod and the Barramundi, and the Flake which is the name of the flesh from the Gummyshark, another prized fish.
So really, you would be subjected to the second rate fish. Chips would probably be similar.
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Fascism doesn't have to have anything to do with race or racial theories. You are thinking of Nazism which is a form of fascism.
However, fascism is always fervently nationalist/chauvinistic.
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