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    In 1933, a serious economical decline culminated in Hitler being appointed chancellor. The 10 years before had been perfect opportunity for the proletarian in Germany to seize power, described by Leon Trotsky as a ‘revolutionary situation’. As predicted by Marx and Engles, capitalism had exhausted itself. There may well have been a revolution, if not for the moronic actions of the two main workers parties, the Communist Party (The Stalinists) and the Social Democratic Party (The reformists). Because these two were to busy arguing amongst themselves, they opened a clear path for Hitler and his goons with dire consequences. Millions of Jews, Communists, Gypsies, Disabled people, Homosexuals, and anyone considered un-Aryan, or a danger to the nazi regime, was murdered. There was no united front against the dangers of fascism in Germany; the problem of fascism was not recognized. These parties failed to convince the proletarian that the bourgeois were the cause of their repression, and allowed them to be fooled that the Jews were the problem, despite the fact that the majority of Jews in Germany were in the same miserable condition as the rest of the proletarian.

    The British National Party and the National Front are attempting to do something similar today. In Oldham and Bradford, were there is a high proportion of unemployment in whites, these neo-nazis are trying to lay the blame on the Asians. In an almost mirror like situation to Germany, proletarians are not realizing that their condition is due to the bourgeois state, but are being fooled that Asians are ‘stealing’ their jobs. These groups will start of using propaganda, pushing leaflets through doors, putting up posters with the same racist slogan: ‘Rights for Whites’. They try to fool the proletarian into thinking that through fascism they can achieve emancipation, despite being committed capitalists. It is in the early stages that the fascists are most vulnerable; while they have yet to win the trust of the white proletarian.

    Counter propaganda is the best way to combat fascism in the early stages. Every racist leaflet, racist poster, even racist graffiti, must be countered with a socialist message. The fascists will be stopped in their tracks. If they fail to win the trust of the white proletarian, then the majority of the white proletarian will see them for what they are: racist, sexist, sectarian, homophobic, xenophobic thugs.

    However, sometimes, like in Oldham and Bradford, the fascists manage to establish themselves. In these cases the fascists have one the support of the majority of the white proletarian. However, this support can be won back. When the BNP and/or NF have established themselves in an area, propaganda is not powerful enough on its own, although still useful in raising awareness. A United Front of socialists, communists, greens, youth, and all anti-racists must be formed in order to drive out the fascists. Protests and strikes must be organized, meetings must be invaded. Anything and everything must be used against the fascists, even violence.

    The question of whether violence should be used against fascists is a strait forward one. The answer is: yes, if necessary. A socialist once said: “Why should I debate with fascists? Fascists would like to see me dead. Why should I debate with someone who wants me dead?” Sometimes force must be used against the fascists, and has been used before, successfully. The BNP were forced from their only regular ‘paper sale’ in Brick Lane, East London. The BNP’s HQ in Welling was shut down, all through force.

    After the fascists have been driven from an area, the United Front must remain, but taking a new form. The United Front must form into a party, which will give the proletarian a socialist alternative. This is already happening in Britain today, the CNMWP (Campaign for a New Mass Workers Party) is being built in order to challenge the bourgeois politics of the capitalist parties, and to defeat the fascists. A voter who voted for the BNP was quoted as saying “I also voted for the BNP in the local elections not because I agree with them. I loathe and detest what they stand for. I did it as a protest.” This quote sums up perfectly what the best way to combat fascists are: To build a socialist alternative.
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    Very important debate this comrades but a brief dissension from the hackneyed old explanation for the rise of fascism in Germany so beloved by the trotskyists! This basically boils down to blaming the communists for the rise of fascism! Bizarre when you think of it really. An explanation rehashed to account for the defeat of the working class and peasantry in Spain in 1936. It couldn't be that we are being softened up for "unity" with our own social democrats- the racist, imperialist Labour Party-whereby in the face of the "threat" from open fascists like the BNP and NF we are supposed to pass over the fact that this Labour government already has the blood of tens of thousands of the working class and oppressed on its hands already. Likewise the communists in Germany, who I agree were a massive force, were expected to chum up to a Social Democratic Party that had led the working class into imperialist slaughter within living memory, had organised the murder of Leibknecht and Luxemburg by Freikorps proto-fascists and the killing of thousands of communists during the Revolution of 1919. I mean c'mon! how difficult would it be to organise with those who are so obviously against you and in the final analysis with the ruling class who were behind the fascists.
    Any analysis of this period has to take into account these grim facts and not excuse or cover up the murderous role of social democracy.
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    my sentiments exactly
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    I personally agree with the article, and I myself am a strong supporter of the "United Front"

    ‘Rights for Whites’.
    Sounds just like Mr. Pat Robertson here in the US
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    I agree with many of the sentiments of the article. It is important to, attack fascists from the very beginning. Indications are that they tend to put up posters stickers and messages, to see what the reaction is. Do they get ripped down? left? do they start getting people phoning asking to get involved etc. It is important to attack every attempt to get their message out. Take down every sticker and poster without hesitation. And put up your own.

    But there is of course, more to it than that. Trashing their meeting rooms, attacking their members, vandalising their properties etc, have in the past been successful tactics. Stopping them organising is more important than stopping them get the message out, though, the two issues overlap heavily, perhaps without distinction.

    Either way fascism is increasinly becoming an issue.
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    Originally posted by Love Underground@Sep 12 2006, 02:58 PM
    I agree with many of the sentiments of the article. It is important to, attack fascists from the very beginning. Indications are that they tend to put up posters stickers and messages, to see what the reaction is. Do they get ripped down? left? do they start getting people phoning asking to get involved etc. It is important to attack every attempt to get their message out. Take down every sticker and poster without hesitation. And put up your own.

    But there is of course, more to it than that. Trashing their meeting rooms, attacking their members, vandalising their properties etc, have in the past been successful tactics. Stopping them organising is more important than stopping them get the message out, though, the two issues overlap heavily, perhaps without distinction.

    Either way fascism is increasinly becoming an issue.
    Well, if that happens I see that the Facists (ANd even perhaps the bourgeois as well) would take a violent stance against us as well - and simply rip down our posters, trash our meetings, and attack our members instead.
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    It's worked before. Use bully psychology; we're a lot bigger than them.
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    Originally posted by RevolutionaryMarxist@Sep 13 2006, 12:25 AM
    Well, if that happens
    It does happen. And as its stands, we're bigger than them. They don't have the capacity to trash our meetings, yet.
    "How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"
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    No, not yet, as I said the only reason they're gaining popularity is because of the absence of a mass workers party. I might update this article (I wrote it) and mention the situation in Scotland, where Solidarity is quickly becoming a Mass Workers Party, and there doesn't seem to be any real fascist prelevancy there.
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    Originally posted by Love Underground+Sep 13 2006, 08:14 PM--> (Love Underground @ Sep 13 2006, 08:14 PM)
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    @Sep 13 2006, 12:25 AM
    Well, if that happens
    It does happen. And as its stands, we're bigger than them. They don't have the capacity to trash our meetings, yet. [/b]
    Well, it only takes one idiot with a bomb pack to blow up a entire party congress.
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