hitlers birthday at my school

[Janus]

Make posters with that

With what? I think the picture expired.


But good luck on your plans, I wish you the best of luck with that.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by Janus@Mar 23 2006, 12:06 AM

Make posters with that

With what? I think the picture expired.

Always trouble with Tripod image hosting... Go here to freely upload images.

[tambourine_man]

i don't mean to spoil anything, but april 30th, hitler's death day, isn't a school day, it's a sunday, if that matters...

[CrazyModerate]

Well every year that changes.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by adenoid hynkel@Mar 21 2006, 05:44 PM
If the celebrate Hitler's birthday on April 20, you can celebrate Hitler's DEATH DAY on April 30.

DIE, MOTHERFUCKER, DIE!!!!!!

Great photo that should be posted on the walls just to piss them off . Oh and seeing as 4/20 is a time to smoke pot you should put up some posters saying something along the lines of "Hitler smoked himself so celebrate by smoking up".

[Comrade Marcel]

Originally posted by drain.you@Mar 22 2006, 09:10 PM
i dont think teachers should do anything about it. imagine if a teacher was to tell us not to celebrate a communist, i would be outraged because everyone should have the right to think what they want and praise who they like.
Sure we dont like this nazis doing this kinda of stuff though. I think celebrating Hitler's death is a good one, especially if they are celebrating his birthday just over a week before hand lol. Hee hee, the soviets were like the first into berlin weren't they? doesnt that mean it was probably the soviets that made Hitler decide to kill himself at that precise moment.
If these guys are in a history class or something then you could wind them up by asking your teacher how germany fell in ww2 and how their fuhrer died lol.
I'm pretty sure you could get loads of support from people around you and you could just attack them or summit.

Sorry, but I think you should do anything that you can to try to stop street level fascism, even if you can manipulate the state/authorities to your means. This doesn't mean you should work with or align yourself with those entities though. For it is often the police/teachers, etc that are the most racist to people of colour everyday.

That being said, communist symbols/activity/etc are going to be banned one day anyhow. This is a "freedom" when enjoy in the imperialists countries. Do you think communists working in real revolutionary conditions get to walk around wearing kewl che shirts n' shit?

When the shit hits the fan your nifty CCCP sweater will be the last thing you are worrying about!

(and this is coming from a guy who loves to wear commie gear BTW)

[Eleutherios]

Originally posted by C_Rasmussen+Mar 25 2006, 08:29 PM--> (C_Rasmussen @ Mar 25 2006, 08:29 PM)

adenoid hynkel

@Mar 21 2006, 05:44 PM
If the celebrate Hitler's birthday on April 20, you can celebrate Hitler's DEATH DAY on April 30.

DIE, MOTHERFUCKER, DIE!!!!!!

Great photo that should be posted on the walls just to piss them off . Oh and seeing as 4/20 is a time to smoke pot you should put up some posters saying something along the lines of "Hitler smoked himself so celebrate by smoking up". [/b]

Hitler was not a smoker, and he definitely wasn't a weed smoker. According to this, he was opposed to smoking (however, he was addicted to methamphetamine).

"I am convinced that if I had been a smoker, I never would have been able to bear the cares and anxieties which have been a burden to me for so long. Perhaps the German people owe its salvation to that fact." —Adolf Hitler

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

i dont think teachers should do anything about it. imagine if a teacher was to tell us not to celebrate a communist, i would be outraged because everyone should have the right to think what they want and praise who they like.
Sure we dont like this nazis doing this kinda of stuff though. I think celebrating Hitler's death is a good one, especially if they are celebrating his birthday just over a week before hand lol. Hee hee, the soviets were like the first into berlin weren't they? doesnt that mean it was probably the soviets that made Hitler decide to kill himself at that precise moment.

This sounds like liberal nonsense. Communists don't support free speech for reactionaries.

Anyway, about the USSR defeating the Nazis, see this: When the communists stopped the Nazi monster

[Eleutherios]

I'm a communist and I believe in free speech for everybody. Say whatever you want, so long as you don't threaten or exploit or coerce others. If they're only using words, logic is a much more effective weapon than violence.

When the revolution comes, there will be no need to forcefully shut up the reactionaries. If the vast majority of proletarians are dedicated to a classless, stateless society (a condition necessary for revolution), people who just spew reactionary rhetoric will just be ignored/ridiculed, and people who try to force their reactionary ideology on others will be fought against for doing that. What's the point in restricting free speech? Let them spew their bullshit and take the time to refute it. Your case doesn't look too good if you just shoot them.

[rouchambeau]

Celebrating Hitler's death day would have been cool, but it's on the weekend. I'd say organize a protest at or around your school and put up posters.

[FinnMacCool]

This is really hypocritical but I would say don't fight them. . .

Or if you do, at least don't call yourself a leftist cause then you will give the authorties and excuse to go, "See? See? They violent!!?!!"

But its hypocritical of me to suggest that cause I would probably fight them anyways.

Funnily enough, I saw a post that said you should outnumber them. Personally I think thats cowardly. I would fight them regardless of how many of them are there.

[donofmp08]

Originally posted by sennomulo@Mar 26 2006, 12:44 AM
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DIE, MOTHERFUCKER, DIE!!!!!!

Great photo that should be posted on the walls just to piss them off . Oh and seeing as 4/20 is a time to smoke pot you should put up some posters saying something along the lines of "Hitler smoked himself so celebrate by smoking up". [/QUOTE]
Hitler was not a smoker, and he definitely wasn't a weed smoker. According to this, he was opposed to smoking (however, he was addicted to methamphetamine).

"I am convinced that if I had been a smoker, I never would have been able to bear the cares and anxieties which have been a burden to me for so long. Perhaps the German people owe its salvation to that fact." —Adolf Hitler [/quote]
actually I think when he was referring to Hitler having had smoked himself he meant that he had his body burned after he commited suicide, at least that's what I think he meant, if he did that's a pretty funny slogan

[KRohm]

Originally posted by donofmp08@Mar 21 2006, 12:50 AM
Hey guys I'm new here and I'd like to know what you guys think of the actions me and my friends plan to take against these racists at our highschool( sorry if I rant) :blush:

I can't stand all these damn redneck racist at my highschool! I swear they are some of the most ignorant people I've ever met, every year on hitlers birthday I see dozens of these bastards wearing nazi symbols on their shirts and hands and doing the nazi salute in front of blacks and mexicans!and the worst thing about is NOBODY DOES SHIT about it! teachers don't say anything, probably because their racist too!everyone else just ignores it, I usually do too, except for some cases where me and my friends confront them because they start harassing my friends So Seeing as hitlers birthday is coming in a few weeks I'm trying to get me and a lot of my other friends who are also leftist and can't stand racist and nazis and wear anti-nazi shirts to school...and there is a certain person who really pisses one of my friends off, we plan to vandalize his truck and cover it in anti-nazi signs... what do you guys think? am I getting worked up over nothing or do these fucks deserve it?

Yes, I say GO FOR IT- give the school one more headache to worry about. Instead of going for the all-out in-your-face confrontation mode- which is likely to get people suspended or arrested on both sides- why not go for a simple, understated 'silencing' of those doing whatever it is you don't like? Just don't associate with them, don't talk to them, don't even acknowledge their existence- take a page or two from the Jews in their fight to silence George Lincoln Rockwell in the 60's. Meeting them head-on is only going to draw attention to them, which- if they are indeed your average hate-spewing race-baiters- is really all they want in the first place. The Jews were at odds between the different groups, with the strteet-fighters going at it mano y mano (and gaining awesome publicity for Rockwell's tiny movement) while the more level-headed Jews manipulated the press to report certain aspects of the confrontations whenever they could before other media outlets had an opportunity to do so. If they had simply used their heads, Rockwell would never have gotten as far as he did.

Why do I tell you this? A couple of you out there (Comrade Marcel for one) have already seen a couple of my posts and know beyond a shadow of a doubt I am a National Socialist- but, by my own admission, not a racial supremacist unlike most others. The 'hate-spewing race-baiters' I mention are no ally of mine, I can assure you, and their wannabe antics only serve to discredit those of us who truly have a grasp of what a good thing National Socialism can be if- just like Communism or Socialism or Anarchism- it's done 'right'.

As for the idea of using Hitler's 'death day' for activism, objectiely speaking it's not a bad idea, although doing so will only serve to publicize the wannbe nazi's even more. And, of course, in the end it will serve to 'up the ante' when they decide to do the same for Che or Lenin or Stalin or whoever you identify with as a hero. Protest all you want- but be smart about it.

[Gryphon]

Originally posted by donofmp08@Mar 21 2006, 12:50 AM
Hey guys I'm new here and I'd like to know what you guys think of the actions me and my friends plan to take against these racists at our highschool( sorry if I rant) :blush:

I can't stand all these damn redneck racist at my highschool! I swear they are some of the most ignorant people I've ever met, every year on hitlers birthday I see dozens of these bastards wearing nazi symbols on their shirts and hands and doing the nazi salute in front of blacks and mexicans!and the worst thing about is NOBODY DOES SHIT about it! teachers don't say anything, probably because their racist too!everyone else just ignores it, I usually do too, except for some cases where me and my friends confront them because they start harassing my friends So Seeing as hitlers birthday is coming in a few weeks I'm trying to get me and a lot of my other friends who are also leftist and can't stand racist and nazis and wear anti-nazi shirts to school...and there is a certain person who really pisses one of my friends off, we plan to vandalize his truck and cover it in anti-nazi signs... what do you guys think? am I getting worked up over nothing or do these fucks deserve it?

In my opinion: ''One good nazi, is a dead nazi!'' But you are not me and I don't think they are of the hardcore type because if they were, they would do more than do the salute in front of blacks and mexicans. I suggest you just stick anti-nazi signs on their trucks without the vandalism, these mess-up punks are not worth the fine if you get caught.

[KRohm]

Something to remember as well; I heard this in reference to Klan members, but it applies equally to any socio/political viewpoint: "It's not the Klan members in hoods and white sheets you have to watch out for; the ones in three-piece suits sitting in corporate boardrooms are the really dangerous ones".

If someone is going around school sporting a swastika armband or various Nazi symbols, chances are he (or she) is simply trying to stir things up and get some attention. Hell, Sid Vicious wore a swastika t-shirt a lot and he was certainly no Nazi! The same goes for those who run around in hammer and sickle shirts screaming "Workers of the World Unite!"- true, they may actually believe themselves, but then you have to look deeper, as in what are they really DOING doing about it?

You can go out and do all the 'anti-fascist' activity you want, but does that really advance whatever cause you're claiming to promote? The same applies to my type- progressive National Socialists who truly belive our program is viable; we have to get past the fists-in-the-street mentality and get down to serious political work.

As I've said before, if any of us- from National Socialists to Communists to Anarchists to whatever- are going to get anywhere it's not going to take placec in the streets; it's going to take place in the halls of government. To change the balance of power you have to BE the power.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by sennomulo+Mar 25 2006, 06:44 PM--> (sennomulo @ Mar 25 2006, 06:44 PM)

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 08:29 PM

adenoid hynkel

@Mar 21 2006, 05:44 PM
If the celebrate Hitler's birthday on April 20, you can celebrate Hitler's DEATH DAY on April 30.

DIE, MOTHERFUCKER, DIE!!!!!!

Great photo that should be posted on the walls just to piss them off . Oh and seeing as 4/20 is a time to smoke pot you should put up some posters saying something along the lines of "Hitler smoked himself so celebrate by smoking up".

Hitler was not a smoker, and he definitely wasn't a weed smoker. According to this, he was opposed to smoking (however, he was addicted to methamphetamine).

"I am convinced that if I had been a smoker, I never would have been able to bear the cares and anxieties which have been a burden to me for so long. Perhaps the German people owe its salvation to that fact." —Adolf Hitler [/b]

No no no, I think you misread what I said. I'll explain:

Hitler smoked himself (as in killed himself) so you celebrate by smoking up (doing pot).

[Gobythebear]

Don't ban the swastika. No speech, not even hate speech should be censored.
It leads us to this pc bullshit. I hate nazis, but I think the symbols shouldn't be banned.

[Comrade Marcel]

Originally posted by Gobythebear@Apr 18 2006, 11:00 PM
Don't ban the swastika. No speech, not even hate speech should be censored.
It leads us to this pc bullshit. I hate nazis, but I think the symbols shouldn't be banned.

Free speech is an adstract idea. There is never such thing in totality.

Nazism is harmful to communtites, it incites hatred and violence towards people based on a socially contructed catagory (race).

If you think nazis should be free to do whatever, perhaps it's because you are not effected by nazis.

You can have your free speech in your town, I'll take nazi free streets.

[Comrade Marcel]

And what exactly is "PC bullshit"? Why exactly is it bullshit to be correct and understand oppression, inequities and to treat people with respect?

[Valmont]

PC or Not PC?

You're at a get-together with a large group of friends; youve decided to bring along an 'outsider' to the regular circle of friends you enjoy. Say this friend of yours is Jewish, and you know none of your regualr friends are.

You introduce your friend to others by saying "This is my Jewish friend, XXX"

Are you being PC by A: pointing out that he's Jewish so as to alert your friends to mind their tongues when the alcohol starts flowing? or B: to indicate to your friends that his beliefs are different and to respect this in conversation and action?

Or are you just acting in bad taste by even mentioning it at all, even with the best intentions?

PC means having to worry about this kind of crap. Say what's on your mind. If people did that and told the truth there would be a lot less misunderstandings in the world.

Bush to Saddam: I know you don't have WMD's but I'm going to attack you anyway because you're an easy target...

Saddam to Bush: I know you will attack me- that is why everyone thinks you are a fool...

See? The truth will always be the best option; it clears the air and lets everybody know where they stand. PC is crap.