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The Civil War in Iraq may be our only revolutionary meal ticket. What do you guys think? With the U.S. army destroyed we can work with more efficiency back home.
Reactionary Democrat Gary Hart says:
"Our army is in danger. If all-out civil war breaks out, we could lose our army. If Sunnis and Shiites take to the streets by the thousands, it could literally be impossible to get [the soldiers] out. ... I know that sounds apocalyptic, but it's not out of the question. We need an exit strategy. We have no choice. We're making things worse. Ninety percent of the insurgents are Iraqis who don't like the fact that we have occupied their country."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0306-02.htm
That seems a bit harsh.
Not all American soldiers are evil. Some of them joined because they needed money for college, had nothing in life, felt they needed to do something important, etc, etc.
I wouldn't be shocked if 2/3 of the army sided with us in a revolution.
Plus, that'd be us gaining at Iraq's loss. We'd be using innocent Iraqis as a mere tool for our benefit.
Life is something worth dying for.
Yes you can work harder back 'home' but what about the innocent Iraqis?
At the end of the day, they know they'll be 'disposing' of innocent humans, so infact they are.
So...killing people for money is okay?
Alot of soldiers joined up thinking they would never have to go to war. Its really the higher ranking officers that are really evil.
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Easy for you to say. You didn't have to grow up in Compton, Detroit, Harlem, Central DC, East Oakland, or places like these which is where most of these kids come from. You don't have to deal with dilapidated, underfunded inner city public schools, or the fact that after graduation (if you live that long) your best bet to get ahead is either selling crack on the corner or joining the military. You've no clue how powerful the propaganda that recruiters spit on a daily basis can be to someone in that situation.
I'm not saying what a good number of the soldiers are doing is right, but it seems to me that you don't have any clue as to what the psychology of the average enlistee. Fact is, these are the exact people we are trying to reach. If you really want to do some good, fucking man up and do some community outreach work so that poor people will educate themselves and join the movement instead of the military.
O, why should wrath be mute, and fury dumb?
I am no baby, I, that with base prayers
I should repent the evils I have done:
Ten thousand worse than ever yet I did
Would I perform, if I might have my will;
If one good deed in all my life I did,
I do repent it from my very soul.
Act V, Scene III; Titus Andronicus--W. Shakespeare
Defending Amerikkka pig $oldiers and labour aristocracy is reactionary.
It is the Amerikkkan people who participated in the election and gave Bu$h 4 more years,its the Amerikkka people who advocate imperiali$t wars and support them.To think that there is any revolutionary potential in a nation whose workers are bribed living it up on third world super profits stolen from countries like Iraq,Afghanistan,columbia and the list goes on and on....
To even think that these pig soldiers lives mean anything when they are the oppressors on the frontline murdering,raping and plundering the peoples of Iraq is a crime in it self.
In order for the Iraqi or any third world people to live the Yankkkee pig Army must die because they won't stop until every anti imperialist progressive third word movement is dead plain and simple so every dead pig soldier is a victory for the international proletarian.
And Praxis,why don't look at the real oppressed like the people in the third world who don't have houses,desease,schools,hospitals,food and clean water all these problems exist in every third world and not in the velvet lined West.People living in places like Halem and Detriot might be oppressed but compared to the Third world they are lucky.
"War can only be abolished by war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun"
- Chairman Mao Zedong
''Once Mao Tse-tung's thought is grasped by the broad masses,it becomes an inexhaustible source of strength and a spiritual atom bomb of infinite power.''-Lin Biao
It's Colombia. If you MIMites are so preoccupied with spelling words wrong, you should at least take the time to spell other right
"Getting a job, finding a mate, having a place to live, finding a creative outlet. Life is a war of attrition. You have to stay active on all fronts. It's one thing after another. I've tried to control a chaotic universe. And it's a losing battle. But I can't let go. I've tried, but I can't." - Harvey Pekar
Learn to fucking spell.
Praxis is right, a job is a job, and a society that puts so much empahsis on having one, wouldn't really care what you are doing.
So what? If you're killing for money and usually killing people who have much worse lifes than the American people, 'a job is a job' simply doesn't do no justice for those (including my relatives) who are being pumped with metal and tortured.
Fine then you could say the same about many terrorists that kill Iraqi civilians and occassionally an American, they also do it for money because they've got no work, no money, it's still not justified.
Maybe I don't..?
Yes and what will you do with them, they've heard of communists multiple times and alot would wipe us all out, what we should be doing is attracting the working class not serving in the army yet because we aren't large enough.
Firstly you have no idea what I do.
And your last sentence is contradictory, if they leave the military how will they feed themselves and their families?
So it is okay for poor muslims to turn to extremism to get themselves out of the slums, but not for poor americans.
You're making it sound like alot of poor muslims consider taking terrorism as a proffession which is totally wrong, most muslims would never think about joining terror groups it is simply the minority.
I agree though they are both not justified however the extremist groups arose due to the American's presence..And at the end of the day, while the army fight on the side of the bourgeois we must limit our sympathy towards them.
ya theyre right, spelling words like that is ridiculous
