So sad for those people killed by these boneheads. A Russian Neo-Nazi? How weird is that.
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I stumbled upon thisvideo showing the russian skinheads
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.htm....skinheads.affl
I did'nt know that this so bad in Russia. They don't even realize that if Hitler was alive today, they'd be dead in the first place.
So sad for those people killed by these boneheads. A Russian Neo-Nazi? How weird is that.
There should be a law, I thought. If you support a war, if you think it’s worth the price, that’s fine, but you have to put your own precious fluids on the line. You have to head for the front and hook up with an infantry unit and help spill the blood. And you have to bring along your wife, or your kids, or your lover. – Tim O' Brien
A sad state Russia has become, once the destroyers of Naziism.
am i the only one who finds it painfully ironic that boneheads would of probly be put in a concentration camp if they lived in the third reich
We are all like iron rings and when the revolution comes we should not think of ourselfs, but our comrades next to us, because when this happens we will unite to form a chain and a chain of iron is more powerfull then a group of iron rings will ever be.
Charles-2006
I'd heard about the guy from Sandinista (the "punk guitarist" mentioned in the video). Russia has got to be a crazy place to be. I had very little idea how bad it was there.
Just imagine being a Russian Neo-Nazi and knowing your grandfather or your great grandfather most likely fought the real Nazi scumbags. Must be a very very weird feeling.
There should be a law, I thought. If you support a war, if you think it’s worth the price, that’s fine, but you have to put your own precious fluids on the line. You have to head for the front and hook up with an infantry unit and help spill the blood. And you have to bring along your wife, or your kids, or your lover. – Tim O' Brien
Their martial arts skills are horrible. They dont follow-through with strikes, and they move horribly slow.
Let us assemble a Russian Immigrant Defense Team
</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'>Now its all about whiny teens with their shitty soap operas</td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>-C Rasmussen
listen, im from russia..actually from saint petersburg..where these shits live..even in the SU the people had hatred for one another but not this bad..(the people or police would have killed them). growing up, u could get guns and stuff from "russian nazis"..we usually just call them fascists...we never really cared for them becuase we knew they couldnt become a majority(they just wanted attention) to be different..but the thing is..they ARE becoming stronger..because much russian youth does not care for socialism or other races anymore. they have been brainwashed. but seriously you cant fuck around in russia..try to fight them all you want..it will only get u killed and the killer will get away with it...i dont have fuckin stupid links or anything to give you but i am living proof. Russia is a dog eat dog kinda place.
Half of the neo-nazi skinhead population of the entire world lives in Russia. Scary shit.
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
This is what WE should be doing.
I am sickened by their perverse ideologies but I do admire the fact that they have mobilized, gathered and prepared and have taken action. This is what we need to do. Not run and hide from them, but train ourselves to kill them.
There are at least 10:000 nazi skinheads (and probably as many non-skinhead nazis) only in Moscow. But only around 500 militant antifascists, but they are dangerous as hell, even more so than the nazis (but only dangerous to nazis).
The russian nazis burn beggars alive, and beat imigrant shopkeepers bloody on the streets, throws acid in the face of people et cetera. One time 200 knife wielding nazis stormed a market and killed one perosn. Here is a clip showing nazi skins beating some imigrant in Russia: http://www.hotniss.com/page.php?id=475
Here is an article on nazi skins and afa-skins in Russia:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/sk...inheads35.html
Here is another russian nazi movie: http://buhteam.org/realob.avi
Translation: In autumn 2004 a new antifa group was called OB 46 was formed in Mosvow. They were loved, hated and the many feared them. But no one knew that
OB 46 in fact were nazis who did actions in AFA's name. In the summer of 2005,
OB 46 got the chanse to meet some members of AFA-Moscow. And this is what happened..." And then the movie shows how OB 46 attacks the surprised AFA-members and beat one of them to the ground.
I've got another movie where antifa St. Petersburg forces a nazi to drink urin from a toilett. No link working though.
Some nazi band. KKK-style and not a nice view on women.
http://korroziametalla.com/photos/showphot...on=32&photo=356
http://korroziametalla.com/photos/showphot...ion=13&photo=97
http://korroziametalla.com/photos/showphot...on=27&photo=258
http://korroziametalla.com/photos/showphot...on=26&photo=249
Some nazis are being attacked:
http://img173.imageshack.us/my.php?i...wantifa7ej.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m...wantifa29sc.jpg
A nazi site where antifas are being hanged out:
http://skinhead.rusdivision.ru/gallery2.php
Some antifa-demo:
http://ru.indymedia.org/media/all/display/1066
Also there is nashis, pro-putinist youth brigades who attacks nazis, national bolsjeviks as well as communists.
A quite new article (November -05) on the subject:
Student Killed in City Center Attack
By Carl Schreck and Galina Stolyarova
Staff Writer
Two brutal incidents during the last week have left one dead and two hospitalized in what some are seeing as continuations of the racial tensions that have plagued the city over the last two months.
Timur Kacharava, a student at the St. Petersburg State University and frequent participant in anti-fascist meetings, was murdered on Ligovsky Prospekt on Sunday night. A preliminary police investigation revealed that Kacharava and his friend Maxim Zagibai, who is currently in hospital with severe injuries to his head and chest, were attacked by a group of youngsters at about 18.30 outside a bookstore, Interfax reported.
“The prosecutor’s office is considering all possible versions, including a nationalist attack as both students were active pacifists and took part in virtually all the anti-fascist events in St. Petersburg,” read the statement of the city prosecutor’s office quoted by Interfax.
In another incident, a fight broke out between two Russian men and a group of African students early Friday morning, leaving one of the Russian men hospitalized, and investigators are trying to determine whether the incident was racially motivated or simply a drunken brawl.
The fight started at around 5 a.m. Friday in central St. Petersburg on the corner of Ulitsa Yegorova and 5-aya Krasnoarmeiskaya Ulitsa, after a group of students from Cameroon and Kenya left the Apollo nightclub, St. Petersburg City Prosecutor’s Office spokeswoman Yelena Ordynskaya said by telephone Friday.
“They got into a confrontation with two St. Petersburg natives who came out of a different club, and after that, several more African students came out of the club to help,” Ordynskaya said.
Initial reports said the African students were carrying baseball bats but the prosecutor’s office later dismissed these allegations. “The students used some sticks they found nearby when the incident was sparked,” Ordynskaya said.
Police arrived on the scene and detained five of the students, while the two Russian men were hospitalized, Ordynskaya said. One of them was taken to hospital with a broken arm and has been in a stable condition since Friday, while the other was treated and released.
Prosecutors of the Admiralteisky district prosecutor’s office have classified the incident as hooliganism, though no one had been arrested or charged as of Friday, Ordynskaya said.
“We are examining all possible versions of these events,” she said.
Initial media reports Friday cited witnesses as saying the African students were wielding baseball bats, prompting comparisons to ongoing riots in the suburbs of Paris populated by immigrant communities. Ordynskaya, however, said that no baseball bats were discovered on the scene.
Reached by telephone Friday, Desire Deffo, a representative of the Cameroonian Consulate in St. Petersburg and deputy director of the “African Unity” organization, downplayed suggestions that the incident was racially motivated.
“I’ve talked to participants on both sides of the fight, and they said it was just a misunderstanding,” Deffo said.
The fight began as a verbal skirmish. As several African students were on their way home from the nightclub in the company of their Russian female friends, they passed the Russians drinking beer near a 24-hour shop, Deffo said.
“One of the Russians asked one of the students where he was from and patted him on the shoulder, and the incident quickly grew into a fight,” Deffo said.
The prosecutor’s office will organize more questioning this week, and nobody has been taken into custody, Ordynskaya said.
Deffo said the police had been tactful and attentive in their treatment of everyone in the incident.
The issue of immigrants and foreign students in Russia has been hotly debated in recent weeks.
Following the incident on Friday, the Moscow Helsinki Group issued a statement accusing the Russian authorities of failing to respond to displays of extremism and indulging nationalists.
“The country’s law enforcement agencies and courts are going to every length to protect nationalists,” Lyudmila Alexeyeva, the organization’s chairperson told reporters Friday. “The recent wave of ethnically-motivated attacks is a shame on this country.”
On Nov. 4, the inaugural People’s Unity Day, 3,000 nationalists and neo-fascists marched through the center of Moscow carrying banners with anti-immigrant slogans.
Moscow city prosecutors are currently investigating whether a television campaign advertisement for the City Duma elections by the nationalist Rodina party violates the law by inciting ethnic hatred.
The advertisement shows Caucasus migrants throwing watermelon rinds on the ground and uses the slogan, “Let’s clear our city of garbage!”
St. Petersburg has been the scene of numerous racist attacks in recent years, and Igor Rimmer, a deputy in the St. Petersburg City Duma, on Friday blamed many of the attacks on “a lack of control” over the presence of foreign students in St. Petersburg and “inarticulate migration policies,” Regnum.ru reported.
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Timur was burried November 18th, 12:10. 5 nazis, age ranging from 16 to 18, was arrested for the murder. Four of them confessed.
Can we refrain from using the word skinhead to represent nazis? The word bonehead is a more accurate description seeing how they stole the skinhead name.
Yeah, I know. I know a lot of skins and most of them would kick a nazi on sight.
But nazi-bones sounds strange.
Christ. Every time I look at this thread I just grow more concerned about fascism.
Fuck me, I'm 18. I'm able. I should be joining some antifa group.
nazi bone is definitely strangeOriginally posted by Djehuti@Feb 13 2006, 10:08 PM
Yeah, I know. I know a lot of skins and most of them would kick a nazi on sight.
But nazi-bones sounds strange.
but being a russian nazi bone is just complete insanity
There should be a law, I thought. If you support a war, if you think it’s worth the price, that’s fine, but you have to put your own precious fluids on the line. You have to head for the front and hook up with an infantry unit and help spill the blood. And you have to bring along your wife, or your kids, or your lover. – Tim O' Brien
I'm curious if anyone has information on the relationship between neo-nazis and the nazbols in Russia...
Neo-Maoist rants: http://marcelthemaoist.blogspot.com The Commie Geek: http://mistax1337.blogspot.com
I would imagine they're fairly tight...
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
not really looking for assumptions, but rather solid knowledge on the subject. It seems to me that third positionists like the nazbols might have it rough (they deserve it of course) seeing as both the left and right despise them.
Unless they have formed some sort of holy alliance...
I'm curious because we had a nazbol attempt in my city, but they never really went beyond setting up a table and trying to infiltrate some anarchist circles hoping to find nationalists anarchists.
Neo-Maoist rants: http://marcelthemaoist.blogspot.com The Commie Geek: http://mistax1337.blogspot.com
What is your opinion on Nashi i know that they are not leftist but how ever i do have a respect for them on the basis of an enemy of my enemy is my friend. I have heard of some accounts of Nashi bashing boneheads in Russia.
Well its all really stupid this racist wave in Russia, one reason cause according to the Nazi's the Slavs are "Untermenschen."
I used to travel to Russia alot but in recent times i have cancelled two trips due to this racial violence since being of mixed race i would stick out in St. Petersburg or Ekaterinburg.
Definately these scum bangs must be re-educated and their leaders who are brain washing the young must be disposed of!
no we shouldnt be doing what they are doing it only lowers us to thier level
When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use
-Joseph Stalin
Look at the American Revolution in 1776. That revolution was for what? For land. Why did they want land? Independence. How was it carried out? Bloodshed. Number one, it was based on land, the basis of independence. And the only way they could get it was bloodshed. The French Revolution - what was it based on? The landless against the landlord. What was it for? Land. How did they get it? Bloodshed. Was no love lost, was no compromise, was no negotiation. I'm telling you - you don't know what a revolution is. Becuase when you find out what it is, you'll get back in the alley, you'll get out the way.
The Russian Revolution - what was it based on? Land; the landless against the landlord. How did they bring about? Bloodshed. You haven't got a revolution that doesn't involve bloodshed. And you're afraid to bleed. I said, you're afraid to bleed.
-malcom x
