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    His teacher was correct, Hitler was a national socialist. His friend was the incorrect one.

    Usually in schools it isn't the teachers that are the problem, its higher up than them.
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    It would have been nice for the teacher to at least say something about how a National Socialist is not the same as a Socialist.
    I&#39;ve noticed that a lot of times in my school, teachers have been teaching things in a way that students associate them with other things and get the wrong ideas (just like the example posted). Worst of all, the teachers don&#39;t say anything about it. The kids don&#39;t know anything about it to begin with, so whatever they&#39;re told it is, they believe.
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    As mentioned above, National Socialism was just a convenient title for Hitler&#39;s version of Benito&#39;s Italian Fascism, it worked because at the time, most Germans had a taste for two things, a strong nation and socialism. It of course wasn&#39;t socialist, or even really national if you consider its alliance with the Italians and Japanese, or the divisions of troops populated by eastern european slavs, arabs and a few indians.


    Regardless, in order to best win the arguement that Hitler wasn&#39;t a socialist, it is easiest to use the example of warlords and militias in certain parts of Africa. Many of these movements are backward and superstitious, often with the only goal of seizing land or power for the head warlord. Nevertheless, these backward, sectarian warlord groups adopt names like "National democratic movement" "the rebellion for people&#39;s democracy" "the revolutionary freedom and liberty movement" (Those are all made up, but you get the picture)

    None of those groups have anything to do with democracy, freedom, or the people, but the certainly use such words because it will gain them support from a naive population. That&#39;s what Hitler did.
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    National(ism) "Socialism" isn&#39;t really Socialism. It&#39;s just name Hitler gave it to appeal to socialists, then he mixed it with anti-semitism, homophobia and racism to get... [B]TA DA&#33; Votes, like all politicians.
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    It should also be pointed out: people who make this comparison are always using it to discredit socialism and/or communism.

    Not to discredit fascism or Naziism, which are already plenty discredited.

    So in using this argument, they&#39;re admitting that nobody really thinks the two are the same.
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    His teacher was correct, Hitler was a national socialist. His friend was the incorrect one.
    i agree, especially that in another lesson, we studied how hitler wasn&#39;t really a socialist but only used it as propaganda. i gotta fix my frends brain, who ironically enough, claims that hes a commie a hitler supporter, homophobe commie...
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    National Socialism believes in equality for one group of people, and the elimination of all other groups. It is a complete contradiction, essentially Racist-Fascism. He used the term Socialism to attract workers to vote for him, who were the key to achieving electoral support and victory.
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    Originally posted by KickMcCann@Feb 2 2006, 12:24 AM
    the divisions of troops populated by eastern european slavs, arabs and a few indians.


    These were only used as desprate measures in 44 and 45 when hitler was running out of sutible germans to fight for him. They were only half measures, one genral wanted to recruit a million man ukranian army to fight the soviets but hitler didnt like the idea on racial grounds.
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    He used the name "National Socialist" so he would appeal to the leftists and rightists.

    He wasn&#39;t a socialist at all.
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