It would be easier just to get rid of them. :angry:
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Should there be communal camp communites after the revolution to reducate former members of the bourgious (like paris Hilton) and drains on a socialist system.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
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It would be easier just to get rid of them. :angry:
These sound too much like gulags. Instead, we strip them of their wealth and we throw them into normal society. After a few years they will have learned to fit in with normal society. I say "no" to both re-education camps and just getting rid of them.
It would be easier and is tempting but not ethical.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
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I was not suggesting work camps as in china or the ussr but simple places were these elements would be taught socialist values.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
I can just imagine "ex celebrities" walking down the street amongst the workers.
Like a college?
Make them do a course in "Communist Values" ?
Sounds like a pretty good idea.
Also like what has been said before they will also be thrown in with normal society so they will have theory and practical with the good combination of college and normal communist life.
Purple Art
A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
I don't think camps of any kind are the answer. People will learn to live in the society and they will adapt.
I think the trouble here is the term "camp".
This does not have to be a bad place where things are forced upon the individuals who are there.
As I said in my previous post, if this was like a college where they go for a few hours a day and the rest of the time are normal members of society then that would sort it out.
Purple Art
A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Extremely well put.
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What if they start cutting classes?!? :P .
Couldn't we just give them two options, stay and be absorbed into society or we'll let you leave, you can come back when every you want not that you'll want to, they would probly get a lot of symithy somewhere else but who cares. Simple.
What makes you think the "dethroned" bourgeois would stay around? ....they will more than likely flee to another country.
Paris Hilton?
Doesn't 're-education' imply the person's had some prior education?
Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.
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When a revolutionary socialist government comes to power, their first and foremeost job is to assure liberation of the working class (by ethical means). Re education camps sound a little fascist to me, as well as unneeded.
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I'm for re-education camp
Celebrities will camp out in boyscout barracks an be forcedto widdle little hammer and sickles from oak wood.
These wooden hammer and sickles get sold on E-bay to people of forgien countries. The money goes "to the greater good".
People in Japan will be thrilled to own a hammer and sickle carved by Tom Cruise.
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This also depends on the cases. For example, if an ex-millionaire excepts the changes of society, and while he may not at the time agree with it, he goes on with his life to be productive, then he has assimilated and will adapt, as all humans do. If another ex-bourgie, however, refuses to accept the reorganization of society by social needs, and then begins to resist violently and become harmful, attempting to selfishly regain his upper position and re-create capitalism, then re-education might be useful. For a case even more extreme than that, well, why should a society providing prosperity equally for all its people waste money for education on this one selfish man's case, when a bullet is so much cheaper? Why accomodate the egoists, when we have children to feed, sick to care for, houses to build, and a new world to create?
It would also be used to de-alienate much of the masses.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
If they could they would. This is the typical move.
And why not let them, if they're not going to condribute to society, who needs'em.
It offends your "Christian values"?
I fully support a "Red Terror" to weed out the most active and dangerous counterrevolutionaries and those who refuse to accept their new lives. Liquidating an entire class is not feasible.
Because they will aid capitalist resistance in other nations. That will no doubt come back to bite us. Cuba being a case in point.
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