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Personally I have a Che Guevara T-Shirt, but I've seen people that pretty-much think he's just an urban-icon.
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fka xx1994xx
Pretty much all I wear is Che shirts, and I did get them from che-lives. It gives me something to aspire to every day. I live in a rural Kentucky town, where no one knows who he is much less wears his shirt. If I was to see some of what you all have seen, as far as the ignorant people go, I would probably be angered out of wearing them altogether. Most arguments against the Che shirt phenomenon are well-founded. The best thing you could do is probably to recommend some reading to the ignorant people who wear them, as well as the ones who inquire on who he is I guess.
I would never wear a Che shirt. Sorry Malte.
The man is one of the greatest fighters for liberation who ever lived. I'm not going to join the scores of petty liberals who demean him by turning him into a symbol of hip rebellion.
Here's a thought- if the ideas of Communism spread throughout America and other capitalist states, then the Che image will become better understood as a whole
[FONT=Calibri]“Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.”-Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
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[FONT=Calibri]“When there is state there can be no freedom, but when there is freedom there will be no state.” [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]-Vladimir Lenin
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[FONT=Calibri]“Can a nation be free if it oppresses other nations? It cannot.” [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]-Vladimir Lenin
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A member of the EDL was wearing a Che Guevara shirt whilst shouting "red scum" at us anti-fascists last year in August...
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Never say, you weren't warned
When they come to drag you away
To silence the dissident hiding in us all
They clench the fist of ordained might
From which side of the barbed wire
Do you want to see your life pass by?
I always thought the Che shirts and mugs and other knicknacks were a bit silly, but a Che bong and accompanying spoon piece at a local head shop did get a chuckle out of me.
Formerly The Wanderer
Meh. I really respect Che, what he did ,what he stood for, etc. and I feel like I'd be joining all these noobs who don't know what they're talking about, even though I'm not part of them >.< why did they have to do that to Che's image >.<
FKA Comrade Ducky
Question everything, answer to no one.
MAKE TOTAL DESTROY, not war.
"This duck is a nuclear duck and it's time the world started calling a duck a duck."-Benjamin Netanyahu
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."- Adam Savage
"Yea the guy on the t shirt is Che, he fought against something in Vietnam right?" - a kid at school who was wearing a Che shirt...sigh. Then the kid proceeds to try and tell me that he fought in Vietnam with Castro. I am not joking in the slightest.
I have a Che shirt that I bought in Cuba.
Che might be a fad in other places, but not in Central Florida. Their is too much capitalist propaganda here because of the Cuban gusanos. Wearing a Che shirt here says, "Fuck you" straight to their face. I love it when they ask me about him. I act stupid and let them tell me their version first. This usually leads them to embellish or fabricate stories. Then, I respond with enough knowledge to shut them up. My favorite question is, "So Che hunted you down and tried to send you to the paredon? Oh, you mean he took all of the land from the owners and used it so everyone could eat? What an asshole." Other leftists I walk by when I'm wearing my shirt show support by stating slogans like, "Hasta la vistoria siempre," and such. I love it
I also have a Huey P. Newton shirt which says on the back, "Black power's giving power to the people who have not had power to determine their own destiny." Nothing pisses off a bunch of white conservatives like a white guy wearing a shirt that advocates for black power. I think it the next best thing to a white girl dating a black guy.
Last edited by Fulanito de Tal; 11th April 2011 at 05:05.
The devaluation of the human world grows in direct proportion to the increase in value of the world of things. -Karl Marx
Of more value is that you understand and learn to not support your security on your clothes because if you lose everything then what are you left with if all you have is only decorations? What a shame. It surely sounds sad like a condemnation that you base your life on only material shit. Nothing special can be purchased. As the little prince says, “What is essential is invisible to the eye.” - Cultura Profetica [translated by me]
I might write a pamphlet on commodification and recuperation and hand it out to anyone wearing a Che shirt I see. I'll post it here if do.
If the recipient gets pissed off and tells me they know all this, then I've made a new friend.
I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct for revenge for which no expedient is sufficiently poisonous, secret, subterranean, petty -- I call it the one immortal blemish of mankind… And one calculates time from the dies nefastus on which this fatality arose -- from the first day of Christianity! Why not rather from its last? From today? Revaluation of all values! -Nietzsche
I was riding my bike the other day to the store and saw a van that was selling all kinds of flags. They were selling British flags, Confederate flags, etc. Then I spotted a flag that was just red with a picture of Che's face on it. Am seriously debating whether or not I should buy it. I don't own any sort of leftist flags or attire, thought it would be something cool to have and wave around if I go to a rally or something.
We claim to live and die equal, the way we were born: we want this real equality or death; that’s what we need.
And we’ll have this real equality, at whatever price. Unhappy will be those who stand between it and us! Unhappy will be those who resist a wish so firmly expressed.
The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, one that will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last.
-Gracchus Babeuf
Last year, I was at a sporting event that had nothing to do with politics. There was a group of people that brought an M-26-7 flag ans was waving it around. I was cracking up! WTF does M-26-7 have to do with a volleyball game??
The devaluation of the human world grows in direct proportion to the increase in value of the world of things. -Karl Marx
Of more value is that you understand and learn to not support your security on your clothes because if you lose everything then what are you left with if all you have is only decorations? What a shame. It surely sounds sad like a condemnation that you base your life on only material shit. Nothing special can be purchased. As the little prince says, “What is essential is invisible to the eye.” - Cultura Profetica [translated by me]
That sounds cool. I would get such a thing if not just to put it up in my room or something and be like "I HAVE A FREAKING CHE FLAG. 'NUFF SAID."
FKA Comrade Ducky
Question everything, answer to no one.
MAKE TOTAL DESTROY, not war.
"This duck is a nuclear duck and it's time the world started calling a duck a duck."-Benjamin Netanyahu
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."- Adam Savage
Dude I was at a track meet the other day and somebody brought a Brazilian flag. WTF is a Brazilian flag doing at a high-school track meet in the middle of California? Guy wasn't even Brazilian, I asked him, he was a freaking German foreign exchange student.
We claim to live and die equal, the way we were born: we want this real equality or death; that’s what we need.
And we’ll have this real equality, at whatever price. Unhappy will be those who stand between it and us! Unhappy will be those who resist a wish so firmly expressed.
The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, one that will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last.
-Gracchus Babeuf
That's what I was thinking too. Maybe make a few videos to put up on Youtube talking about politics or jamming out with my guitar or something, if I have a Che flag in the background it only makes it that much cooler right?
We claim to live and die equal, the way we were born: we want this real equality or death; that’s what we need.
And we’ll have this real equality, at whatever price. Unhappy will be those who stand between it and us! Unhappy will be those who resist a wish so firmly expressed.
The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, one that will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last.
-Gracchus Babeuf
He probably thought it looked cool? Weird...
And @your other post, yes, having a random Che flag in the background of youtube videos adds +10% awesome.
FKA Comrade Ducky
Question everything, answer to no one.
MAKE TOTAL DESTROY, not war.
"This duck is a nuclear duck and it's time the world started calling a duck a duck."-Benjamin Netanyahu
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."- Adam Savage
I personally own several Che items, and my being here shows I know and believe in exactly what he stood for, perhaps you should question those you see wearing Che items and educate those who do not know and find a Comrade in those who do?
poor Korda tho :O
This is why I don't own a Che shirt. Not because I'm not acknowledging who he was, but because I'd be promoting ignorance by wearing it. People will assume "Oh hey, it's just another stupid kid who has a blatant dislike for authority." I don't like that.