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    Nazi Gathering Turns Violent; 6 Arrested


    TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) - A crowd that gathered to protest a white supremacists' march Saturday turned violent, throwing baseball-sized rocks at police and vandalizing vehicles.

    Six people were arrested and police, fire and media vehicles were damaged, Police Chief Mike Navarre said.

    At least two dozen members of the Roanoke, Va.-based National Socialist Movement, which calls itself ``America's Nazi Party,'' gathered at a city park to march under police protection. Organizers said they were demonstrating against black gangs that were harassing white residents.

    The march was canceled, and the violence broke out about a quarter mile away from the park along the planned route.

    Keith White, a black resident, criticized city officials for initially allowing the march.

    ``They let them come here and expect this not to happen?'' said White, 29.

    Two hours after authorities called off the march, 150 officers in helicopters and cruisers and on foot, bicycles and horses continued to chase bands of youths.


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    thats stupid as hell. what are cops doing protecting nazi bastards?
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    What else would they be doing?

    Fascists are their comrades in arms of course, they've got racism, authoritarianism and capitalism in a neat little package, why wouldn't cops love them?
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    Originally posted by Che y Marijuana@Oct 16 2005, 01:27 PM
    What else would they be doing?

    Fascists are their comrades in arms of course, they've got racism, authoritarianism and capitalism in a neat little package, why wouldn't cops love them?
    Exactly what I was thinking. Cops are authoritarian, and they love to excercise their power, why the fuck wouldn't they protect Nazis?
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    Originally posted by Che y Marijuana@Oct 16 2005, 05:27 PM
    What else would they be doing?

    Fascists are their comrades in arms of course, they've got racism, authoritarianism and capitalism in a neat little package, why wouldn't cops love them?
    i dont know, maybe theyd be doing their stupid job trying to arrest people who commit crimes?

    thats stupid as hell. i hope the cops in houston arent that stupid.
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    Originally posted by Ginger Goodwin@Oct 17 2005, 04:15 AM
    This was a deliberate provocation by the NSM.
    Unfortunately the rioters seem to have played into NSM's hands by burning buildings in their own neighborhod.
    Exactly. As much as I am against Nazism, not only being provoked by those people but also starting to destroy other people's property was just dumb.
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    Yeah. They should all go to the nearest financial, upscale shoping district, or federal office complex and started a riot there.

    I'd suggest rioting in the Nazis's neighborehood but i suspect that their farm houses are too spread out ot riot around properly and pushing over their trailer homes would just be bad sport.

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    Another thing to think about is why they're even there. Are the nazis trying to rally support? Are they trying to shock people? Maybe recruit new members.?

    We need to challange this on a deeper level.
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    their motivation probably comes down to the same thing that motivates leftist protests: their own self satisfied amusement. :-p.

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    I'd suggest rioting in the Nazis's neighborehood but i suspect that their farm houses are too spread out ot riot around properly and pushing over their trailer homes would just be bad sport.
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    Good too see that the anti-fascist riot developed into a riot against the cops and class society. Not so good to see how media always labels rioters as criminal gangs et cetera. They also did so in New Orleans and we now thats false.
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    Originally posted by TragicClown@Oct 17 2005, 08:14 PM
    I&#39;d suggest rioting in the Nazis&#39;s neighborehood but i suspect that their farm houses are too spread out ot riot around properly and pushing over their trailer homes would just be bad sport.
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    Originally posted by TragicClown@Oct 17 2005, 08:14 PM


    I&#39;d suggest rioting in the Nazis&#39;s neighborehood but i suspect that their farm houses are too spread out ot riot around properly and pushing over their trailer homes would just be bad sport.
    Ho-ho, poor people are racist. Not perpetuating too many anti-working class myths are we?

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    I think he was going more towards the insinuation that they are what is popularly referred to in American culture as "hillbillies", "rednecks", or "white trash".
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    I agree with Xvall ; I never meant all poor people are racist. That would be kinda hard, considering the fact that the majority of poor people in the US is black.. <_<
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    Originally posted by Xvall@Oct 19 2005, 07:11 PM
    I think he was going more towards the insinuation that they are what is popularly referred to in American culture as "hillbillies", "rednecks", or "white trash".
    If &#39;white trash&#39; isn&#39;t an euphimism for the poorer sections of the working class, what is it?
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    "White Trash" is synomomous more with an attitude/lifestyle than it is with class. There are numerous celebrities that are quite wealthy and are still considered "white trash".
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    I find "white trash" to be elietist and anti-worker and it also implies that poor whites are not really "white"... wtf, like any white person can&#39;t commit a crime or be addicted to drugs or have bad taste in music, it&#39;s only "white trash" that does this?

    It&#39;s a linguistic way to seperate workers further; just like racism which blames one ethnic group for society&#39;s ills, it blames one group of white people.

    Redneck is anti-worker like "wetback" although people have made a strong argument that redneck is usually in reference to racsist whites, it still has the conotation of working-class or rural white people (how do you get a red-neck? The same way you get a "wet-back", from outdoor manuel labor).

    I think it&#39;s better to use "whitty" or "the man" because this points the finger at the white people who run society, not everyday white people.

    And when talking about real racists, calling them racist or NAZI should be enough of a slur that adding "redneck" or "hillbilly" isn&#39;t necissary. I think it&#39;s a misconception that poor whites are the most racist since most KKK leaders were town-officials (sherifs, judges, small-business owners etc) and members of the Democratic Party.
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    "Whitey" (I assume thats what you meant with "whitty" for I have never heard that phrase before) is a generally racist term also.

    Redneck is a lifestyle, not a class. Look at the Jeff Foxworthy bunch. They proudly proclaim their redneckiness and are making a living off of it.
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