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    (Transcript taken from Cuba's anti-terrorist website:
    www.antiterroristas.cu and also available in Word:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaNews/files/ )
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    Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada
    CUBA vs. TERRORISM
    September 13th, 2002

    Ricardo Alarcón, the President of the Cuban Parliament, was present at
    the launching of this website on September 13th, 2002, and participated
    in this forum answering questions put to him by the many people that
    visited
    www.antiterroristas.cu :

    Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada: For those of you awaiting my
    response to your questions, please be assured that I will
    answer each and every one put to me - even after the
    inauguration of this website is over.
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    Nicholas Barry: The war on terror was first undertaken by
    Reagan, as a substitute for the Cold War -- that is, as a
    vehicle for scaring the public and thus marshalling support
    for programs contrary to the public's interest -- foreign
    campaigns, war spending in general, surveillance, and so on.
    Now we are seeing a larger and more aggressive attempt to
    move in the same direction. Does the problem that we are the
    world's foremost source of attacks on civilians auger
    complications for carrying through this effort? Can the
    effort be sustained without, in fact, a shooting war?

    Alarcón: Unfortunately, Cuba has a lot of experience in
    terms of having to defend itself and preventing terrorists
    acts organized from abroad against our country. During the
    past 43 years, we have managed to do this thanks to the
    participation of the people that support a government whose
    policies respond to the interests and needs of the
    overwhelming majority. The war and the use of military force
    is not the solution to the problem of terrorism.

    It is necessary and possible for governments, civil
    societies and people from all over the Planet who
    unanimously reject terrorism to unite in a common front.
    Terrorist groups, which account for a minor part of the
    population, would be totally isolated and would not receive
    support from anyone. But, in order to accomplish this,
    governments should be required to adopt effective measures
    against all forms of terrorism and against all terrorists
    regardless the causes and motivations they may argue to try
    to justify their actions.
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    Camilo PF: I am a "Marielito" and already living in Miami,
    Hero's Day was declared because of Dr. Bosch, the one who
    planted the bomb on the Cuban airliner and who has been
    speaking in different media outlets. Did you know that? What
    do you think?

    Alarcón: Yes, I did. I think it's shameful that Orlando
    Bosch, who blew up a civil airliner while in flight and who
    also committed other crimes with bombs and rockets in the
    U.S., walks a free man and that five Cubans are in prison
    for having tried to prevent crimes like Bosch's. The radio
    and newspapers in Miami continue publishing daily statements
    and announcements by Bosch, and other of his kin, about the
    new acts they are planning. For example, his confessed
    commitment to terrorism against Cuba published in the Miami
    Herald on August 22nd last year. He reiterated this on June
    16th this year in the Diario de las Américas, which
    published a document he had previously read on Radio Mambí
    on June 6th.

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    "Nose Nada": Explain why you have the site and why you
    chose to announce it on such an important and solemn day for
    the free world?

    Alarcón: We have been publicizing this site since September
    2nd. September 11th is a very important day for the entire
    world and not just for part of it.

    Cuba has condemned, from the very outset, the atrocious
    terrorist attacks suffered by the people of the United
    States on 9/11. It is not just a strong and absolute
    position officially taken by the government, but by all
    Cuban people as well.

    Cuban solidarity on this issue is profound and sincere,
    since nobody can feel deeper the suffering caused on 9/11
    than can Cubans, This is because Cuba has suffered more
    terrorist acts and for a longer period of time - 43 years -
    than anyone.

    I lived in New York for fourteen and a half years and have
    been visiting the city for fully half my life. I feel great
    pain for the many, many friends I have there. I was in New
    York on the 11th September 1974 when the terrorist group
    Omega 7 was created. I take this date to also remember the
    11th September 1973 in Chile and the coup d'etat, which
    included the bombing of the presidential palace, planting
    terror in the population with the assassination of thousands
    of people.

    Between 1974 and 1979, Omega 7 exploded bombs at the Cuban
    Mission in New York as well as at other Cuban offices in
    Manhattan. No one was ever arrested for more than 60 acts of
    terrorism in which US citizens were killed and many other
    lives put at risk.

    On the 11th September 1980 my friend Félix García was
    assassinated in full daylight on Queens Blvd. Those who
    ordered his death walk the streets to this day planning new
    crimes.

    On the 12th September 1998 five Cubans were arrested for the
    only "crime" of working to prevent and avoid these kinds of
    terrorists actions against Cuba that have also caused the
    deaths, as I said, of US citizens.

    "All men are created equal," says the most famous document
    in US history. This means that everyone has the right to
    life and we should all fight together against those who seek
    to kill - wherever they may be, whoever they may be and for
    whatever motive they may have. Nobody should be imprisoned
    for seeking to save lives at the great risk of their own.

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    Ken Bradstreet: If these five individuals were proved to
    have carried out the espionage charges against them, on what
    does their government base the accusation of unjust
    imprisonment?

    Alarcón: Not one of them had the accusations of espionage
    proved against them - or anything resembling that. It is the
    first time in the history of the United States that someone
    has been condemned as a "spy" without witnesses or evidence
    or any kind of material proof brought against them. No
    "secret" documents taken, no recruits, nothing. Top military
    personnel and official experts called onto the witness stand
    testified that, on the contrary, the evidence presented
    indicated absolutely no espionage activity.

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    Peter Filderman: If Cuba has been the victim of so many
    terrorist attacks, why is it not cooperating with the United
    States since September 11th? Why is it not part of the
    Anti-Terrorist Coalition?

    Alarcón: Both before and after September 11th, Cuba has on
    numerous occasions attempted to cooperate with the United
    States by passing along precise information on terrorist
    groups that operate freely on US territory against Cuba, as
    well as information, when we have it, on plans made by
    others against the United States - specifically an
    assassination attempt planned against former President
    Reagan. Cuba has laws on its books that very severely punish
    terrorism in any form and against whomever without
    exception. We have ratified all international treaties on
    this and cooperate with the United Nations Security Council
    in the application of it's Resolution against terrorism.
    Conforming to this Resolution, the Cuban government proposed
    a bilateral cooperation agreement with Washington that the
    State Department has completely ignored.

    Soon after September 11th, we submitted to the United
    States, upon request, all information that we had - although
    this was logically scarce, for unlike Washington, Cuba never
    had a relationship of any type with the Taliban regime nor
    with al-Qaeda and therefore there was little we could
    contribute. At the same time as immediately condemning the
    September 11th attacks, Cuba put its airports at the
    disposal of those who may need them and offered medical help
    to the United States. Fidel Castro called for a broad and
    real antiterrorist coalition to include all political,
    religious, intellectual and social forces. However, the Bush
    administration preferred to go to war - a position we
    consider erroneous and unjustified.

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    Gary Solomon: For how long were these five men spying for
    the Cuban Government?

    Alarcón: They never spied. The laws of the United States
    define such a crime as "to obtain or to try to obtain secret
    information from the government of the United States with
    the express purpose of causing damage to the United States."
    During the trial no evidence or witness was presented to
    indicate such an act was ever carried out or even attempted.
    On the contrary, several witness - including retired
    military personnel of high rank, as well as Government
    experts - testified they had not found any proof of
    espionage after examining the documentation presented by the
    Prosecution. It should be noted that two of the Cubans -
    René González and Fernando González - were not accused of
    anything that related to alleged espionage and the other
    three were not accused of spying but of "conspiracy to
    commit espionage."

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    Gennaro Carotenuto: Dear Mr President, September 11th was
    two days ago. Except for the newspapers "Liberazione",
    Italy, "Der Standard", Austria, and "The Independent",
    England, the international and European media ignored the
    Chilean event completely. Had it not been for the end of the
    Ken Loach film "September 11th", starring Vladimir Vega, a
    former political prisoner, I found almost no mention of such
    an important and dramatic event in Chile, which was a clear
    instance of state terrorism. Once more we are witnessing an
    attempt to hide historical memory from the people. The
    authors of "antiterroristas.cu" have taken the opposite
    direction by trying to systematically publish valuable
    information so the phenomenon known as state terrorism -
    from the Condor Plan to the failed coup in Venezuela - is
    exposed in its full dimension.

    However, and here's my question, how do you envision from
    your post and from Cuba the struggle between the
    single-minded big media conglomerates and the alternative
    media that, although quick to act, account for minimum
    ratings compared to the avalanche of commercial TV?

    Alarcón: Thank you for your comments.

    It is a hard and difficult struggle. In 1969 Brzeziniski had
    already anticipated the power that the media would acquire
    in "manipulating the feelings and controlling reason" by
    operating on isolated individuals. Preventing isolation,
    connecting, and organizing itself is the big challenge for
    the alternative media. That demands creativity, something
    people will never renounce. "Que no haya soledad" (Away
    with Isolation) as the Silvio Rodríguez song goes.

    Gennaro Carotenuto: Mr. President, many signs indicate that
    new forms of state terrorism are risking the democratic
    system in Latin America at a crucial moment of crisis of the
    neo-liberal model.

    >From those murdered in Buenos Aires to the failed coup in
    the Bolivarian Republic, the plan Colombia itself, the list
    of signs is worrying. What is the position and the
    perception from Cuba, especially concerning the need to
    break the isolation that the island is being pushed into by
    such policies?

    Alarcón: I don't think Cuba is isolated. I'd rather say
    that the U.S. policy toward Cuba is more isolated and so is
    the model imposed on the [Latin American] continent. There
    is another danger: resorting to force and the return to a
    more repressive regime as the economic crisis and social
    revolt intensify.

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    Lucia Newman: Do you think it is possible to win what the
    president of the American Lawyers Guild calls "the political
    struggle" in favor of the five Cubans before the second
    stage -"the legal struggle," that is, the appeal process -
    begins?

    Alarcón: The political struggle will be won as the truth
    about the case is, I trust, known.

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    Francisco Aruca: Dr. Alarcón, generally the Cuban government
    has accused the Cuban American National Foundation (CANF),
    or people linked to it, of being committed to terrorist
    actions against Cuba. What is the situation now after the
    CANF divided?

    Alarcón: Neither of the two CANF wings has renounced
    terrorism against Cuba and both contain known terrorists who
    are still active. In fact, we now face two CANFs committed
    to terrorism. What happened was a case of fission.

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    Anya Landau, Center for International Policy: Does Cuba
    continue to support the peace process in Colombia? How does
    the FARC fit into the process?

    Alarcón: Yes, we continue to support the peace process in
    Colombia. We maintain contacts with the government of
    Colombia and are prepared to contribute to that goal, which
    of course depends on the Colombian participants involved.
    The government of that country has recognized our commitment
    to peace in Colombia.

    Anya Landau, Center for International Policy: What is the
    Cuban position on the violent tactics used by independence
    groups like the ETA, IRA and FARC?

    Alarcón: Cuba has always condemned and opposed terrorism of
    any kind and believed in peaceful political resolution of
    international conflicts.

    Anya Landau, Center for International Policy: "Did Fidel
    Castro really tell an audience in Iran in May 2001 that Cuba
    and Iran could 'bring America to its knees?"

    Alarcón: Fidel Castro did not say that. He has never used
    such language. On the contrary he has praised America and
    the American people time and again.

    That invented phrase was a complete fabrication of the Cuban
    American National Foundation that nobody else has sustained.

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    Thomas Larkin: Isn't embargos a form of terrorism? This is
    especially true with a nation that has a low GNP. It is even
    worse when it is a large and powerful nation against a small
    nation whose only threat is a political system that provides
    for more of its poor.

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    Sidney, from Raleigh (North Carolina): Do you believe that
    these five Cubans were given every legal guarantee during
    their trial?

    Alarcón: For 17 months the five Cubans were held in
    solitary confinement. The trial was held in Miami in a
    completely hostile environment, which was aggravated by an
    intense propaganda campaign stimulated by the Attorney
    General's office. The supposed evidence was classified as
    "secret", enabling the government to edit, select and
    manipulate it at will. The Defense was denied the right to
    present a number of documents and witnesses, and those who
    did testify received threats quite openly in the courtroom.
    The jury was subjected to coercion in the very courthouse
    itself - even the judge complained of this. The Cubans were
    condemned and sentenced - which is currently under review by
    the Court of Appeals - and the requests of the Defense to
    see the so-called "evidence" has still not been granted some
    four years later.

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    Manuel Alberto Ramy. Radio Progreso Alternativa: President,
    terrorism generally uses violence? How could one go separate
    of the other? Is there a legal norm universally accepted and
    compulsory to all countries?

    Alarcón: There is not a legal norm accepted by every
    country. Cuba has insisted in the UN that a definition
    should be found, but I think there is a basic consensus
    about some aspects of terrorism such as the use of violence
    or the violence threat against defenseless people to obtain
    certain demands by the terrorists. Wars for independence or
    the resistance against the Nazi involved violence, but they
    cannot compare to a bomb in a Miami theater or the barbaric
    act of 9/11, terrorist acts, indeed.

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    Nils Andrey: The people of the US were deeply affected by
    what happened on September 11th and the threat of new
    terrorist attacks and seek the cooperation of the world to
    punish those responsible. We're tired of just declarations
    against terrorism. Is Cuba ready to act, to cooperate with
    the United States in this?

    Alarcón: We are doing everything we can. On September 11,
    that very same morning, we opened our air space. We offered
    our airports for any plane heading to the United States that
    could not land there because the American airports were
    closed as a result of the attacks. We also offered
    humanitarian medical assistance, if necessary. When the
    United States informed us that they were going to use
    Guantánamo base, in Cuba, to accommodate prisoners who were
    captured and accused of terrorism, we accepted. We have
    facilitated the considerable increase in air traffic that
    has taken place to and from that area of the Cuban territory
    as a result of their transfer there. We have publicly stated
    that on the very improbable event that one prisoner might
    escape into territory under Cuban jurisdiction, we would
    return him to the US authorities. Likewise we have offered
    our cooperation to ensure adequate sanitary conditions on
    the base.

    We have made the proposal, and we stand by it, for bilateral
    cooperation in the struggle against terrorism. We have
    presented other proposals through the diplomatic channel,
    but I would not like to elaborate on them because as of now
    they have a restricted character.

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    Nils Andrey: Thank you for the rapid reply. I have another:

    According to Cuba there are a number of terrorist groups
    that are allowed to act from US territory - do they just do
    so against Cuba? Are other countries also targeted?

    Alarcón: But not only against Cuba. On September 4th, a
    week ago, Rodolfo Frometa, leader of terrorist group Comando
    F-4, announced in a press conference plans against Venezuela
    and threatened Brazil. That person is a confessed and
    convicted terrorist. In 1994 he was arrested while trying to
    purchase from an FBI undercover agent C-4 explosives,
    anti-aircraft rocket launchers and anti-armor weapons. On
    this occasion, he was "sentenced" in a plea agreement to one
    year of house arrest. On March 27th, 2001, during the trial
    against the five Cubans, Mr. Frometa offered detailed
    information, as a witness, about the terrorist activities of
    groups Comando F-4 and Alpha-66. The outcome of the trial
    surely stimulated him to continue carrying out acts against
    Cuba and extend their terrorist activities against other
    countries.

    And also against the United States: dozens of attacks have
    taken place on US territory and in Puerto Rico - the
    majority of which have been committed with impunity. Orlando
    Letelier was assassinated along with a US citizen Ronni
    Moffit by a car bomb placed in Washington DC. Those who
    committed this act live in Miami freely and have even made
    public comments about this. Noone was charge with the
    killings for which Carlos Muniz Varela of Omega 7 in Puerto
    Rico took responsibility. These crimes have caused great
    losses of lives and property to people living in the US.

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    Albert A. Fox, Jr. President, Alliance for Responsible Cuba
    Policy: There are many rumors in Washington, DC and Florida
    that Cuba has secret training grounds for al Qaida
    terrorists. Could you please comment?

    Alarcón: I have never heard such a ridiculous accusation
    before. Cuba does not have and never has had any connection
    with al-Qaida. It is a fact that it was the CIA that helped
    create and train them. By the way, the 9-11 hijackers were
    not trained here, but in the U.S.

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    Tracey Eaton, The Dallas Morning News: There are fugitives
    from the USA in Cuba. Some have been condemned for homicide
    and the United States wants Cuba to return them to their
    country to confront the charges. Is there a possibility of a
    prisoner exchange - the Miami Five for the US citizens in
    Cuba?

    Alarcón: Cuba and the U.S. have had a bilateral extradition
    treaty that was ignored and killed de facto by the U.S.
    since Jan.1, 1959, before Fidel Castro descended from the
    Sierra Maestra Mountains. The U.S. began receiving with open
    arms each and every Batista fugitive. Since that time, the
    U.S. has never sent back any criminal from Cuba.

    We have proposed specific draft bilateral cooperation
    agreements on terrorism, drug trafficking, and illegal
    migration that may cover that area. The U.S. has refused
    even to consider our proposals.

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    Nelson Valdes, New Mexico: 1) It has been said that the
    Cuban government never officially requested U.S. authorities
    that criminals and torturers who fled Cuba in 1959 be
    returned to the island. What happened in relation to this?

    2) Terrorist acts against Cuba by, or sponsored by, U.S
    citizens are unknown in the United States. Can you provide
    details about the first US citizens who participated in
    terrorist acts in Cuba?

    3) Even though Fidel Castro mentioned in a speech that the
    FBI was given information concerning Cuban-born individuals
    living in the U.S. who had been involved in terrorist
    activities, this information is not public domain. Is it
    possible to have access to it?

    Alarcón: Nelson, I can assure you that the MINREX (Ministry
    of Foreign Affairs) files with the diplomatic notes
    requesting the return of the criminals plus attached
    proofs -including court sentences given to these individuals
    before 1959- are so bulky that can cover the distance from
    here to New Mexico. Dr, Roberto Agramonte, Cuba's first
    Foreign Minister in 1959, devoted a considerable part of
    his tenure to this respect.

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    David Christian: I recently read an interview in which Noam
    Chomsky claimed that Cuba was the country against which the
    most terrorist acts had been committed. Is this true? If so,
    why has its government not sought to cooperate with the
    United States' authorities to avoid these acts?

    Alarcón: Mr Chomsky's statement is true if one takes into
    account the terrorism against Cuba that has been perpetrated
    from overseas against the island. Especially as those that
    attack us have the backing of a country as powerful as the
    United States. Numerous declassified official reports and
    documents have been published that thoroughly prove this.
    And has been taking place since 1959.

    Concerning the cooperation, this is precisely what we have
    been trying to do for the last 43 years via numerous
    diplomatic requests that have almost all been turned down by
    Washington. This is why we have found the need to take our
    case to the United Nations - the most recent instance being
    in 1992 at the Security Council when I was the UN
    Ambassador. At that time we made specific requests in an
    attempt to obtain the cooperation of Washington to put a
    stop to the terrorist activities of Orlando Bosch, Luis
    Posada Cariles and the so-called organization, Brothers to
    the Rescue.

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    Nestor Rius: In what stage is the appeal process at the
    Court of Atlanta and what possibilities do the five Cubans
    have? My name is Nestor Rius. I'm a journalist with AIN and
    I would also like to know if I could publish your answer in
    a news wire. Thank you.

    Alarcón: The Court of Atlanta establishes a calendar for
    the parties to present their arguments. The Court needs
    first to receive the file of the trial held in Miami. This
    file has not yet been sent from Miami because the problem
    concerning the supposed "evidence" that is still kept secret
    has not been solved.

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    Ricardo Sánchez: Mr. President, it is known that Cuba has
    repeatedly expressed, as you just indicated, its desire to
    cooperate with the U.S. in the fight against terrorism.

    If the U.S. State Department accepted your cooperation, what
    measures would such cooperation entail? Would it only
    concern the exclusive situation of both nations?

    Alarcón: We have submitted to the U.S. a draftproject for
    bilateral cooperation to fight terrorism that would
    establish concrete measures to avoid and punish any
    terrorist activities. The Security Council resolution
    approved by a U.S. initiative after 9/11 asked member
    nations to do exactly what we have proposed. If every
    country did the same it would be very difficult that
    terrorist actions occurred anywhere.

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    Anthony Boadle: What role has Otto Reich played in relation
    to terrorist acts against Cuba?

    Alarcón: Otto Reich has old and close relationships with
    the worst anti-Cuban terrorists, in particular with Orlando
    Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles. From his post in the State
    Department, which he got thanks to the influence of the
    extreme right wing in Miami, one should suppose that he is
    supporting their actions as he's always done.

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    Francis: There has been much talk about whether or not
    espionage took place. But the most important point,
    especially here in Miami, was the murder they committed
    against four young Brothers to the Rescue pilots.

    Alarcón: Your question touches on a very important point,
    which is the violation of the defendants' right to have the
    trial moved to a city other than Miami. The right to a
    change of venue is normally granted to any defendant. The
    prejudice and hostility against Cuba in Miami is well known
    and well documented. One only need recall the Elian Gonzalez
    case, the bombs, the insults and the threats against those
    attending concerts by Cuban artists. That's why the Latin
    Grammy awards had to be moved to Los Angeles.

    Amid this climate, the Prosecutor introduced the murder
    accusation -by the way, not against the five, but only
    against Gerardo Hernandez- and unleashed a campaign of
    propaganda and mobilizations, which intensified the
    prejudice and hostility.

    It would take a lot of time to explain the long history of
    provocations and violations committed by Brothers to the
    Rescue. I just want to say that what occurred that day was
    an action by the Cuban government that was justified and
    legitimate, in defense of its sovereignty and on which it
    had previously and publicly issued warnings. Neither Gerardo
    nor any of the other four had anything whatsoever to do with
    this action.

    In addition, this accusation against Gerardo was never
    proven. The prosecution itself acknowledged as much in
    writing when the court's proceedings concluded and it tried
    to modify the original charges, In this document, among
    other things, the prosecution openly recognized that "in
    light of the evidence presented in this trial, this presents
    an insurmountable hurdle for the United States in this case,
    and will likely result in the failure of the prosecution on
    this count."

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    Anya Landau, Center for International Policy: What can you
    tell us about the Havana hotel bombings in 1997?
    Specifically, are there active terrorist cells operating in
    Cuba?

    Alarcón: If you want additional details you can read the
    New York Times front page interview with Posada Carrilles on
    12 and 13 of July 1998. He ordered and organized those
    bombings that wounded some people and killed a young
    Italian.

    Obviously I don't know about their activities but according
    to what they openly announce in Miami and the explicit
    recognition of the US government during the trial of the
    five, the Miami terrorist groups are very active in trying
    to operate in Cuba.

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    Journalists in the Website Opening: I'm an American and I
    worry constantly since 9-11. I have two small children and
    worry about them because of clear threats to our safety. I
    have no time to worry about 5 Cubans here. We have a lot of
    other prisoners. I think this is something between the US
    and Cuban governments and has little to do with 9-11.

    At first glance I like your website.

    Alarcón: I understand your concern but the problems between
    Cuba and the US since 1959 have had EVERYTHING to do with
    terrorism with both Cuban and US residents being the
    victims. These five Cubans are in prison for fighting
    against Cuban exile terrorist groups that freely operate in
    Miami.

    The best homage to the victims of the horrendous 9/11 attack
    would be to eradicate all manifestations of terrorism.

    During the trial of the five Cubans, it was clearly
    demonstrated that the Florida authorities protect terrorists
    and punish those who fight against them within the US.

    For example, the US government petitioned that in addition
    to his sentence of the 14th December 2001, that the
    following be included in Rene Gonzalez' sentence:

    "As a further condition of supervised release the defendant
    is prohibited from associating with or visiting specific
    places where individuals or group such as terrorists,
    members of organizations advocating violence and organized
    crime figures are known to be, or frequent."

    Rene Gonzalez, a US citizen, was convicted exclusively for
    penetrating terrorist groups in Miami in order to uncover
    their plans and prevent their crimes. For doing so, he was
    condemned to 15 years in prison and the addition prohibition
    against acting against these groups. The government,
    according to the sentence, knows who the terrorists are,
    knows where they are but does nothing against them. On the
    contrary, it protected them from Rene Gonzalez.

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    José Pertierra: Dear Mr Alarcón,

    Thank you for spending your time with us. I would like you
    to comment on the reasons the government of the USA
    justified its denial of a visa to Adriana Pérez. With your
    knowledge of international law, I ask that you comment on
    the violations of international rights that the US has
    committed by depriving Gerardo Hernández a visit by his
    wife.

    What possibilities do you see in the appeal? To my way of
    thinking the fundamental problem of the trial is that the
    anti-Cuban environment that exists in Miami necessarily
    contaminates any jury selected there. The US government
    itself has recognized this in a recent case involving an
    agent of the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

    Sincerely

    José Pertierra
    >>>>
    Alarcón: Dear Mr Pertierra

    Adriana was granted a visa, and with her passport arrived at
    Houston airport where she was held for 11 hours before being
    sent back to Mexico.

    There are norms of International law, and the specific norms
    relating to the treatment of prisoners prohibit "cruel and
    unusual punishment", as does the United States Constitution.
    This case is obviously cruel and unusual. Gerardo and
    Adriana have been condemned never to see each other again.

    As far as the appeal is concerned, if the judicial system is
    to work then the trial should be annulled for the numerous
    procedural violations that took place along with the very
    severe penalties for supposed crimes that were never proved
    to have been committed. The jury was contaminated and was
    also the object of pressure, which the judge herself
    acknowledged. The recent case of the INS agent proves that
    the government knows and recognizes that a fair trial in
    Miami is inconceivable.

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    Michael Richardson: We all know that, despite several calls
    by independent factions for peace, Cuba and the United
    States aren't, shall we say, the, er, best of friends. What
    about relations between other nations? What ties does Cuba
    have to other nations and is there any attempt at gathering
    support in conjunction with them to stop terrorism, at home
    (wherever home may be to anyone) and abroad?

    Thank you,

    Alarcón: Cuba has normal relations with practically every
    other country on earth, the US is the exception. With a
    number of those countries - including some close US allies -
    we cooperate and work together in fighting terrorism.

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    "Que Tal": Some simple questions: Is there an oficial Cuban
    government website? Or is this the best place to find
    official information on government perspectives relating to
    various issues, including that of it's perception on
    terrorism?

    Also, is there information on how to get in touch with
    government figures? For example, her in the USA any person
    can write to the White House or a member of Congress via
    e-mail or regular mail. Does this option exist for Fidel
    Castro or government officials? Gracias

    Alarcón: The Cuban government receives messages through
    many routes - including personal contacts - and are replied
    to by those who receive them.

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    Rosa Mari Pesquera: I know of the manipulation that the
    government of the United States carries out every time it
    commits an injustice - doing everything to hide its real
    role. It speaks of democracy and justice and at the same
    time hides it's hand in murder. In Puerto Rico we have the
    cases of Santiago (Chagui) Mari Pesquera, my brother and son
    of Juan Mari Brás (the well-known independence leader),
    Carlos Muñiz Varela (a Cuban who defended a policy of
    openness with the government of Cuba), Angel Rodríguez
    Cristobal (who fought to rid the island of Vieques of the US
    Navy), and more, who were assassinated with the complicity
    and participation of federal agents. None of these cases
    have been solved and the FBI refuses to provide information
    it has in its control. (For more information, see:
    www.verdadyjusticia.org )

    Initiatives such as this Forum are positive sources to
    create consciousness and confront the United States with its
    own terrorist acts.

    Rosa Mari desde Puerto Rico

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    Gennaro Carotenuto: Mr President, Allow me to reflect on
    the unique nature of this event (forum).

    According to popular thought you are one of the leaders of
    the so-called "Tropical Gulag" - a bloody, communist
    dictatorship that does not respect human rights and the
    freedom of opinion and the press.

    Yet you, the President of the Parliament, are answering both
    comfortable and uncomfortable questions from people that
    have not been screened. Frankly, in no Western Democracy
    would this be possible.

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    Ileana Luis, Nueva York: Buenos días compañero Ricardo
    Alarcón. It is a pleasure and an honor to participate in
    this Forum with you. My name is Ileana Luis and I am a
    member of the Casa de las Américas in NYC.

    The object of this message is to let you and Cuba know that
    although far from our country there are those of us that
    defend you. We fight for the release of the five courageous
    Cubans and will not rest until we achieve this - just as we
    did with Elian from here, as José Martí put it, "in the
    belly of the beast".

    These five Cubans give us energy to continue the fight to
    defend our homeland. No matter the dirty campaign carried
    out by the right wing here versus their fight against
    terrorism - the more world opinion learns about their case,
    the more it allies itself to the struggle for their freedom.

    On September 12th we had a Forum in New York in the same
    voice with many other countries. It is a lot of work but not
    impossible and we will continue until justice has been done.

    I do not want to go without inviting you to visit our
    modest website that we built to inform the world from here
    of the truth about Cuba and correct the disinformation that
    is disseminated by dirty propaganda against our country and
    its brave people. It also has a corner dedicated to the
    Five.

    The address is: www.cubasocialista.com

    Un abrazo revolucionario,
    Ileana Luis
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    Interesting sites. Interesting paste-in.

    Do they speak Spanish, Portuguese or Cuban in Cuba?
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