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    All of this has been admitted by the U.S.

    Operation Northwoods:
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20...northwoods.pdf

    Operation Mongoose:
    http://www.marxists.org/history/cuba/subje...e/c-project.htm
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/cuba_mis_...f%20Special.pdf

    Their justification:
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

    Funny how you quote that sentence but not the rest after. Do you really think the United States is actively pursuing the assasination of Fidel Castro in the year 2000? Let alone now?! Sure.
    Nooo, they gave up on the 412th attempt.

    What bombings? You mean the cubans who bombed the hotels and planes themsevles and the salvadorians they hired.
    Sure you can use those, since they were funded and sponsered by the U.S.

    Or how about the ones where the U.S. sent planes painted with the logo of the Cuban airforce to drop fire bombs on Cuba to make it appear that pilots had defected??
    http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_154.shtml

    Or how about when they funded Posada to blow up a Cuban airliner?
    http://www.nlg.org/cuba/nlgextraditeposada.htm

    Do you really believe those stories of a CIA agent giving a canadian a ton of money to create a sea turtle disease so it can land ashore at Cuba. Come on.
    Right, the U.S. would never do something like that.

    http://www.workers.org/ww/biowar.html
    http://www.oneworld.org/ips2/aug/cuba.html
    http://www.poptel.org.uk/cuba-solidarity/C...anuary/Bio.html

    Naval blockade, I don't how this is considered terrorism.
    Terrorism - The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

    llegal economic blockade? Whats illegal about it? Most countries agree with it, hence their still a economic blockade.
    You're an idiot. Every country but the U.S., Israel, & some obscure island nation in the south pacific has condemned the blockade in the UN.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1114-06.htm

    There wouldn't even be a blockade of any sort if it wasn't for former cubans who insist, they lived in Cuba before take it from them.
    What? This doesn't make any sense. The gusanos in Miami were pimps, drugs dealers, capitalists, and agents of the U.S. and Batista. And who "took it from them??" The revolution had the support of the large majority of Cubans!

    You guys think communism is this jolly old thing it's not.
    So why are you here? And Cuba isn't communist, it's socialist. Try reading.

    http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/ry/faq.html

    On who? Name them. Name sources.
    Fidel Castro
    http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/castroreport.htm

    Che Guevara
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB5/che1_1.htm
    http://www.poptel.org.uk/cuba-solidarity/C...AkilledChe.html

    Camillo Cienfuegos, Raul Castro, etc. etc. etc.
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    The U.S. has been terrorizing Cuba for 46 years..
    It's actually longer than 46 years.

    The United States occupied Cuba in 1898-1902, and a second time 1905-1909. Most of the occupying force left after The Platt Amendment was installed, which severely limited Cuba's independence. Cuba was de facto US-controlled until 1934, but even after that, the US had a very large influence in Cuba.
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    Nooo, they gave up on the 412th attempt. laugh.gif
    According to BBC, Castro has survived over 600 assassination attempts.

    In 1999 a Cuban interior ministry official put the figure at 637.

    But would you comment my last post regarding Law 88?
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    Originally posted by left-nut@Sep 17 2005, 05:05 PM
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    mercenary invasions

    Bay of pigs, yeah I'll give you that."


    I am half Cuban and I live in Miami, dude. There are many terrorist and mercenary gusano groups who are not ashamed of it and are treated like heroes here.
    What does your family think of you going socialsit?

    And this seems fair enough. I dont see why cuab should amke it ewasy for the U$ to overthrow it and disrupt it';s interests.
    In what relations do the Communists stand to the proletarians as a whole? The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to other working class parties. They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole. They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement.
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    Originally posted by NWOG@Sep 17 2005, 03:08 PM
    Your opinion on this?

    Article 9: Sets prison terms of seven to 15 years to "anyone who...carries out any action aimed at hindering or hurting economic relations of the Cuban state."

    Target: Could be applied against any Cuban who complains to a foreigner about the state of the economy, since such information can lead a potential foreign business partner not to invest on the island.
    http://www.autentico.org/oa09465.php

    The author has a point, I think.
    Autentico ??

    aka. Los Gusanos.

    I know the law very well and, as I've said in my first post, support it strongly. It's neccessary to continue the rule of the working class in Cuba.
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    Wikipedia is a bad source. Anyone can literally edit out any articles, change stats and all, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
    So untrue.
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    It isn't the greatest source though.. I have found some bullshit there.
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    So untrue.
    What is the purpose of all your inane comments?
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    Originally posted by CompaneroDeLibertad@Sep 19 2005, 06:41 AM
    It isn't the greatest source though.. I have found some bullshit there.
    True but you have to say that for a resource anyone can edit its pretty watertight.
    You can call me an idiot as much as you want, but we both know I am not. I've out-debated countless commie pukes in my years here, and you would be well advised to shut your mouth less you be out-done by my logic as so many others have.

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