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Observations on Art and Culture, Science and Philosophy
This provocative collection of reflections and observations by Bob Avakian on art, culture, science and philosophy offers a rare treat. Excerpted from formal talks as well as more informal discussions and conversations, many of the texts in this collection allow the reader to experience firsthand the freewheeling Bob Avakian – in the process of developing his thinking and re-envisioning the communist project on a wide range of controversies, from the dictatorship of the proletariat to discussions of truth, beauty, science and imagination.
The observations collected range from Avakian’s reenvisioning of the dictatorship of the proletariat and his epistemological breakthroughs in Marxism to reflections on truth and beauty, science and imagination, the problems of Lysenko-ism, and the relationship of Marxism to philosophy generally.
Insight Press believes this collection will provide the reader with important, fresh and provocative insights and provoke further creative and critical thinking on art, culture, science and philosophy … and revolution.
Bob Avakian: Observations on Art and Culture, Science and Philosophy
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no one cares about bob avakianl
It goes one for the student who refuses to submit and two for the teacher who is under-paid as shit, and three for the strikes who give young bloods life and four for the years you spent stifled inside.
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can we start moving this shit to the trashcan cause im sick of seeing it.
reading some of these "book burning"-like comments. And the overall blacklisting attitude by commentors to this announcement, I wonder...
are you all fascists? Would you support a government attack on revolutionaries, including Bob Avakian. Or would you side with the govermnet and cheer them on.
IMO revolutionaries like Bob Avakian should be defended!
I thought I had erased the question "are you all fascists"
it didn't seem lofty enough to me, so i meant to take it out,
but there it is, my first reaction
Well thats your opinion on avakian. My personal opinion. Hes a fool who is just doing nothing more then created a cult of personality and all you RCP people are following him like sheep the slaughter.
cut your hair and get a job...
He is not a revolutionary to me.
Fuck Bob Avaikian and all petty bourgeois misleaders like him!
I have a honest question though: has the RCP ever recruited a member through a message board like this one? Or do you just do this sort of thing to annoy people?
“The soviets were the realisation of an objective need for an organisation which has authority without having tradition, and which can at once embrace hundreds of thousands of workers. An organisation, moreover, which can unify all the revolutionary tendencies within the proletariat, which possesses both initiative and self-control, and, which is the main thing, can be called into existence within 24 hours.” - Leon Trotsky
I figured somebody would be interested in this in the Philosophy section of the forum, and that's why I posted it there. To my knowledge, this is the only book on philosophy that has come out in this decade by any u.s. marxist -- correct me if i'm wrong -- and I haven't heard about any anarchists writing books on philosophy recently either. So I figure the only book in the decade on philosophy by any kind of "revolutionary leftist", socialist, anarchist, communist, whatever-ist, in the u.s., might get some attention in the philosophy forum. (Funny, it's okay to talk about Che, Castro, or Chavez in the main forums, but anything regarding Avakian is automatically shoved into a side forum.)
Red Flag - why are you complaining about Bob Avakian being from a petty bourgeois background? you got a pic of Che in your profile who was from an aristocratic heritage and even went to medical school and became a doctor, so he didn't have your much-vaunted "working class purity" either. i guess we'd have been better off without all the other leaders from petit bourgeois backgrounds like marx, engels (well, he was actually bourgeois), lenin, mao...
That's Fidel. <_<
"Getting a job, finding a mate, having a place to live, finding a creative outlet. Life is a war of attrition. You have to stay active on all fronts. It's one thing after another. I've tried to control a chaotic universe. And it's a losing battle. But I can't let go. I've tried, but I can't." - Harvey Pekar
And Bob Avakian
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
I'm surprised you didn't find it "lofty" enough. I had sort of gathered that in your opinion everybody who doesn't agree with you is either a liar or a class enemy or both. And the answer to your not lofty question is no we are not all fascists.
On the upside RCP members and supporters don't read porn, they just wack off over Avakin. That guys cult of personality is as amusing as it is pathetic.
"In reality, the difference is, that the savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him."- Jean-Jacques Rousseau
"The emancipation of the working class must be the work of the workers themselves.”- Flora Tristan
"Both those on the East and those on the West should be clear with the fact that we are not moving away from our road that we beat the path for in '48. That is to say, that we have our own ways. We always bravely say what is right on this side and what is not, and what is right on the other side, and what is not. It should be clear to everyone that we cannot be an appendage to anybody's politics, that we have our own point of view and that we know the worth of what is right, and what is not right."- Josip Tito
Red Powers : "I'm surprised you didn't find it "lofty" enough. I had sort of gathered that in your opinion everybody who doesn't agree with you is either a liar or a class enemy or both. And the answer to your not lofty question is no we are not all fascists."
Well, I am glad to be able to clear up this misconception. We do not think that people of different worldviews are necessarily liars or fascists. In fact we know that we have a lot to learn from people of all different perspectives and we welcome this knowledge. As the RCP chairman says, all truth is in the interest of the proletariat. At the same time we do struggle with people over important questions. And we struggle for a lofty approach, when possible, to engaging these questions.
I did not mean to leave that in the post, but there it is, uneditable, and I do think there is an aspect of truth to it. Though people may not be fascists, or identify themselves with fascism, there is a very real and palpable attempt at the repression of Bob Avakian and the RCP by some members of this board.
And this type of repression I think is harmful. Though I do not expect everyone nor think everyone needs to agree with the RCP or Bob Avakian.
An atmosphere of debate, questioning and deep struggle is what is needed, in my opinion. And I am sure that Bob would agree with me
And too be clear, I do not include everyone who has been debating or even criticizing Bob Avakian is necessarily a part of this palpable attempt at repression. Particularly it is the one-sentence responces that have no real substance other than to discourage people from even looking at the RCP or Bob Avakian seriously.
However there are a number of really interesting posts with deep questions and disagreements that does seem to flirt with this whole repressive aspect. I expect better of radical-minded people.
And as a side note, there has been some throwing around the word "counter-revolutionary". This is a very serious charge and warrants actual content. Revolutionaries who know the importance of differentiating between friends and enemies do not level extreme charges without at least attempting to back up their comments. Instead of all this I think it might be more worthwhile for people to lay out their disagreements with Avakian.
-Janx
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