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I am wondering: where is Fascism the worst in the world, i.e. where does it have a lot of support?
I have heard that it is pretty bad in Russia, as a comrade on another board once said that according to what he had read, something like 50% of the world's skinheads live in Russia. And the US rants about how much better Russia is now than it was as a deformed workers' state.
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heres some good stuff about teh history of fascism...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
...it talks alot about the previous support of fascism, and the differences between nazism and fascism, and italian fascism
... really good stuff found there.....wikipedia's a great place to find out a lill bit more about things like that.......
The U.S. also has a shitload of fascist assholes
America is fascist
I would say around Europe is the most dominant fascist area. German and Polish Antifa are quiet active from what I read.
Also the north west of England is quiet Fascist opinioned .
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There are a lot of fascists in Russia and they support Putin.
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The US has a rapidly growing fascist movement, and a rapidly declining anti-fascist movement.
Anybody remember ARA...Anti-Racist Action? They used to turn out hundreds of militant anti-fas who would block the message of the fascists and then hunt them down and kick them off the streets.
Now the fascists bring out hundreds to thier "white picnics" and the anti-fas numbers are around 30-40.
And skinheads have nothing to do with fascism god damnit. There are a number of skinheads on this fucking board. I made a post about it in learning. Skinheads have been some of the most active anti-fas all over the world.
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there is a large nazi skinhead gang in my city, but we have a pretty large ara.
It goes one for the student who refuses to submit and two for the teacher who is under-paid as shit, and three for the strikes who give young bloods life and four for the years you spent stifled inside.
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See that's the thing. Back in the 80s that wouldn't fly. You couldn't walk out of your house if you were a known nazi. You'd have people, either from ARA, or RASH, or SHARP (in the US) on your ass in a minute.
But the problem is, most of those groups were comprised of young people in subcultures (many of them skinheads) and they've grown up and got out of the skinhead (or punk) culture, and therefore got out of anti-fascism.
We need a working class alternative to these groups. Britain has Antifa, Red Action, and Class War, but these are, again comprised largely of subcultural youths (Red Action being almost 100 percent skinheads). And I have heard that these groups have poor organization or a shitty membership cadre.
We've got to use these groups as a basis and as an example for building working class movements against fascism. And no, I don't mean chanting at them through megaphones.
They know that they can't use a political route right now. So what they're doing is building a strong street based movement. So we've got to kick fascism in the ass right now, we have to combat them on the streets so that we don't have to fight them politically. If we can keep them to afraid to walk out of thier house to get a beer then we don't have to worry about keeping them from taking power.
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me and my freind dont let them do there shit when we see them out.
It goes one for the student who refuses to submit and two for the teacher who is under-paid as shit, and three for the strikes who give young bloods life and four for the years you spent stifled inside.
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The nazi movement is growing in America, I cannot speak for other countries, but at least in my town, its growing very fast.
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the most fascist countries are:
india
israel
the us
and
russia
in my opinion
THe fascist movement in the US is changeing. I grew up in an area where there were neo-nazi gangs and people would fly confederate flags on MLK's birthday (this is in a white suburb in California). Thoes gangs are mostly gone now, but I think there are still a lot of Nazis, they just have changed their tactics because everytime they come out with big flags and hold white power rallies, they get demonstrated against and simply can't function like they want to.
So the fascists are trying to figure out how to appear respectable. They are one the internet mostly (because of the opposition they face when they try to have meetings in the real world), but they are also getting into the anti-immigration thing right now and I think they are having sucsess with it. Even mainstream conservatives will oppose someone wearing boots and talking about Hitler and how the holocaust was a lie, but, on the other hand, many liberals will support someone who is talking about restricting immigration.
So I think immigration is where the new fight is. When Nazis tried to march in Ohio, they were met with angry mobs against them. If they cloak their white supremacy in talk about "protecting american culture" from immigrents who "won't assimilate" they can get an interview on the local news.
THe fascists today are putting on suits and talking about immigration, not throwing bottles at homless people who sleep in the park like they were 15 years ago.
If I were a betting person, i'd bet the most likely country where they could be a real fascist movement that could take over, it would be India right now.
Also France is a potential with people like LePen... especially if there's a strong nationalist/right-wing responce to the rioting going on.
If the economy suddenly crashed, the US could also be a likely place. Right now, the US isn't fascist though. I mean, it's rediculious (and actually a liberal argument in my poinion) to say the US is fascist right now. Imagine having big protests like the ones at the start of the Iraq war in Germany right before they invaded Poland... it couldn't happen and if it did, then thugs (aside for the police) would have come in and stated bashing people's heads in or taking photographs and killing the protesters later. Saying the US is fascist right now does a diservice to how bad fascism really is and to the people who fought against it in the French, Italian, and Warsaw resistance movements.
i never said the us was fascist...but the far-right wing of the republican party is certainly fascist... the moderate republicans and democrats are too pragmatic and anti-ideological to be fascists...
Could you even have fascism in India? Part of what makes a fascist nation is the fact that it is an imperialist nation. So, you might have something "fascistic", i.e. right-wing, nationalist and repressive; (like Chile's military dictatorship under Pinochet) but it's not exactly fascism.
Unless you think India could become an imperialist country and start colonizing or using military and/or economic power to dominate other countries...
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India may not be incredibly imperialistic, but compared to the other countries in that area its streets ahead. Pakistan possibly rivals it and China obviously surpasses it in size and wealth, but India is still probably the dominant country in that particular region. Therefore it could become a continental or regional fascist.
Also history shows that a few imperialist nations can exist with fascist ones, just not for long.
Though if you look at present day India, if I'm not mistaken the labour movement is pretty militant and a militant but not revolutionary labour movement has in the past provided the material conditions for the ruling class to invoke fascism.
All in all I wouldn't put money on India becoming fascist, but theres probably a more than average chance it could become fascist.
No what I was reffering to as far as India is are the anti-muslem pogroms of recent years.
http://www.geocities.com/indianfascism/fas...rds_fascism.htm
I am not strong on my knowledge of India, but from what I've read, it sounds like the nationalist groups who have been attacking muslems share a similar social base to fascists in that many are local petty-bourgoise who are organizing thugs in boots who carry sticks and scapegoat muslems.
http://prod.india.indymedia.org/en//2002/09/2168.shtml
im with RASH on this one we should kick their asses so bad evey time they plan sumthin
the nazis and klan too but they should be delt with extreem hostility and force
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That makes no sense whatsoever.
