They tell people to vote for the Democratic Party. Not only are they reformists, they are class collaborationists.
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Despite popular belife the Communist Party of the United States is not a reformist party it does have reformers in it but it is mostly made up of revolutionaries.
by the way most U.S. refomists join the democratic or socialist partys.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
They tell people to vote for the Democratic Party. Not only are they reformists, they are class collaborationists.
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Too long have the workers of the world waited for some Moses to lead them out of bondage. He has not come he never will come. I would not lead you out if I could for if you could be led out, you could be led back again. -Eugene V. Debs
Exactly!
That is what makes me completely pissed off.
The Communist Party is telling us to vote for a Capitalist party.
This is going to get a bout four pages of angered ferver, so I thought it was a good idea to reply at the base.
He who was previously the money-owner now strides out in front as a capitalist; the possessor of labour-power follows as his worker. The one smirks self-importantly and is intent on business; the other is timid and holds back, like someone who has brought his own hide to market and now has nothing else to expect but - a good tanning. - Karl Marx, Capital Volume I
I'm starting to get tired of reminding people about this but it was written in the Communist Manifesto:
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A communist group must work towards revolution but some democratic measures are of interest to the working-class. Thus, the communist work with these reform parties towards a momentary benefit for the proletarian.
In fact, the communist should be too busy working towards a revolution that they don't have time to invest in the bourgeois-election fraud.
The problem with the CPUSA is they only see reform possible (which it is not) and they are focused on the "non-violence and peace" of socialism.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
its part of there atempt to build a broad leftwing movement. I also think they lean to much on the democrats.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
The CPUSA didn't abandon Marxism because of its support of the Democrats, their support of Democrats came after their abondonment of Marxism. The whole reason they are seen as reformist and a simply a Democratic interest group is because they are.
A broad movment from the left would be composed of people on the genuine (revolutionary) left.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
I also disagy with there ideas on minimum wage. they did not truly turn unmarxist but waterd down some policys.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
"Watered down" is an understatement, they abandoned the concept of a revolution towards socialism.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
I like the communist party usa becase they are more flexible in ideas than the RCP or the WWP.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
Yes, and the Republican Party is more flexible than the Constitution or Libertarian Party.
This still doesn't justify reformism.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
then what do you prepose comrade?
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
A massive education programme by a group of communist (I like the title "Communist Bloc" out of nostalgia and accuracy as a vanguard party is just an excuse to steal power from the proletarian) that gathers workers into a common leftist rally.
When the time is right for a revolution in America, a massive uprising led by the Communist Bloc and armed insurrectionaries will smash the bourgeois state and establish a Socialist Worker's Republic. The bloc whose only goal is to strive towards a proletarian revolution dissolves at is no longer needed.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
similer to the first Internatinale. only perhaps more revolutionary.
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
The reason why it sounds like the First International is because I am a Marxist, and most of the members of the First International were Marxists.
Lenin polluted Marxism by abandoning scientific socialism by throwing a quasi-socialist revolution in a nation that was not prepared for it. The use of Marxists phrasology does not make you a communist, understanding scientific socialism does.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
How do you plan to begin "Communist Bloc"?
We are monopolists in the field of politics. We can't stand any competition. We can tolerate no rivals. The working class, to make the revolution can do it only through one party and one program. This is the lesson of the Russian Revolution. That is the lesson of all history since the October Revolution.” -James P. Cannon.
http://www.themilitant.com/
By communist starting local activist groups that latch on to a national (or international) organization that provides pamplets, news, theory, and funds.
One member here once wrote somethign of profound importance, the revolution begins in your backyard.
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
The problem here is that the Manifesto was written over 100 years ago under completely different material conditions:
The Communist Manifesto: Insights and Problems
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Too long have the workers of the world waited for some Moses to lead them out of bondage. He has not come he never will come. I would not lead you out if I could for if you could be led out, you could be led back again. -Eugene V. Debs
This is not the only way.
We must detach ourselves from the common life.
We must explore and live as if we only had a day to live. Everyday, live as if you were the martyr that communism would be judged upon from no till the end of eternity.
This is the way to acheive a revolution... it doesn't start in the backyard... but in the mind.
And that is the most encouraging news us lefties could ever dream of.
He who was previously the money-owner now strides out in front as a capitalist; the possessor of labour-power follows as his worker. The one smirks self-importantly and is intent on business; the other is timid and holds back, like someone who has brought his own hide to market and now has nothing else to expect but - a good tanning. - Karl Marx, Capital Volume I
