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    You never mentioned anything about the majority being far-right. So don't thank me.
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    I said the the south is mostly dominated by the far right so that does mean majority it doesn't mean every single human being in the south.
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    Fascist Italy was dominated by fascists. That doesn't mean the majority of it's people were fascist.
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    For fuck sake who said anything about governments? Listen if you cannot debate intelligently don't debate at all.
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    I wonder why these two particular children were singled out for execution? Were they more vocal than most Iranian gay people? More visible? What other political activities were they involved with? Did the Mullahs want them dead for other reasons? The story of injustice as it is almost defies the imagination.

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    I live in the armpit of the deep south. To the east is Georgia, Alabama is due NORTH, and Louisiana is to the west.

    My mothers side of the family comes from Chicago and my father's side is from Philly. As a result, I've spent a good bit of time traveling around the north.

    It seems to me that right-wingers are the majority everywhere I go in the eastern US (I haven't spent much time at all in the west).

    Generally speaking, righties in the south are more polite and less likely to bring up the topic of politics or religion.

    There are no openly gay teenagers in the south, because kids are almost incomprehensibly cruel to eachother (around here at least). There are quite a few openly gay adults living in the south, and nobody seems to bother them much. They are not liked (just barely tolerated is closer to the mark), and behind their backs people say mean things, but face to face there is almost always a polite facade.

    The way I see it, in the South, most people want the government to "do something" and they will not rest until gays are 2nd class citizens. In the North, people do not seem to have super-sized churches preaching politics and organizing the congregations for right-wing activism, and the northerners that do care one way or the other are likely to beat the crap out of you and leave it at that.
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    Originally posted by Seeker@Jul 26 2005, 08:26 PM
    There are no openly gay teenagers in the south, because kids are almost incomprehensibly cruel to eachother (around here at least).
    I know one, my wife's cousin. She was in some tiny town, too, until she joined the army. So actually stopped being openly gay when she left that town....
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    That's the don't ask don't tell policy right? Or is that just to guys? Correct me if am wrong.
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    Originally posted by YoUnG192@Jul 27 2005, 01:46 AM
    For fuck sake who said anything about governments? Listen if you cannot debate intelligently don't debate at all.
    It was a metaphor. You obviously can't see that. Idiot.
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    Name one country where gays are accepted.
    Um, all of Europe and Canada, the major costal cities in Brazil, East Asia and non-muslim South East Asia, India, Australia, the United States Pacific, North Eastern and Great Lake states...

    No religion accepts homosexuality
    How about episcopalians, presbyterians, mainline methodists, first world anglicans, quakers, the united church of christ, unitarian universialists, reform jews, sufi muslims, wiccans, ect.


    All religion might be kindof messed up...but the hardline Shia islam in Iran is way more messed up then most religion. Even evangelical christian crazys don't systematically murder gays.

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    Originally posted by TragicClown@Jul 28 2005, 02:35 PM
    Name one country where gays are accepted.
    Um, all of Europe and Canada, the major costal cities in Brazil, East Asia and non-muslim South East Asia, India, Australia, the United States Pacific, North Eastern and Great Lake states...

    No religion accepts homosexuality
    How about episcopalians, presbyterians, mainline methodists, first world anglicans, quakers, the united church of christ, unitarian universialists, reform jews, sufi muslims, wiccans, ect.


    All religion might be kindof messed up...but the hardline Shia islam in Iran is way more messed up then most religion. Even evangelical christian crazys don't systematically murder gays.
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    Blame it on the gouvernment, don't blame it on religion
    Iran is a theocracy.
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    Um, all of Europe and Canada, the major costal cities in Brazil, East Asia and non-muslim South East Asia, India, Australia, the United States Pacific, North Eastern and Great Lake states...
    Ask a teenager in Europe today what he or she think of homosexuals, and they will almost always answer that they despise homosexuality. The youth seems often more reactionary than the adults.
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    What makes you think that? You must hang out with some pretty biggotted people. If anything youths (when they think about what they say, not when they follow the crowd) are far more open-minded than older people.
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    Originally posted by h&s@Oct 5 2005, 11:24 AM
    What makes you think that? You must hang out with some pretty biggotted people. If anything youths (when they think about what they say, not when they follow the crowd) are far more open-minded than older people.
    I agree with NWOG, as it is certainly that way (for the majority of teens) here in the US. The majority of the kids I know (and just talk to or listen to) are reactionary morons, the kinds of kids the Army would love.

    Oh well, just means more bodies for us to pile up when the Revolution comes!
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    Originally posted by YoUnG192@Jul 26 2005, 08:07 AM
    You guys need to start getting the full story. These guys raped little kids. Here is the full story FULL STORY!!!!!

    Capital punishment is wrong but if these fucks molested little boys whose lives are changed forever, I feel no sympathy what so ever.
    They were accused of rape, but in a rather vague way.

    I've read the same tactic was used against men of black skin in the american south - if he had consensual sex with a white woman it was "rape".

    This is a pretty see through charge. They were hung for being homosexual. No reason to beat around the bush, Islam (the religion and its institutions, not each and every follower) is reactionary.
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    Originally posted by guerillablack@Jul 25 2005, 07:39 AM
    They raped someone, and they raped someone underage, they deserved to be hung.
    only one was Accused of this.
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