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    Originally posted by TragicClown@Jul 25 2005, 04:22 AM
    If they actually raped somone that i wouldn't object...but again if you read the article only one of them was accuased of that and Iran exicutes people for consensual sex as well.


    Supporting Iran against imperialism is like supporting the Nazis or Japanese empire against imperialism. There aren't many things worse then american imperialism but Iran is one of them.


    Of course the US kills tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis but you should remember that Iran has also killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis so it really doesn't have that as a point of moral superiority on the US does it?
    Comparing Iran to Japan or Germany is inaccurate because Iran is in no way imperialist like those countries were.

    I never said the theocrats of Iran were the best people ever. Though I am sure most would choose them over any secular neo-liberal Western puppet any day of the week. Hugo Chavez even backs them over the neo-cons currently in power. (i live in the US btw)
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    IRAN DESERVES THE SUPPORT OF EVERY SINGLE ANTI CAPITALIST AND ANTI IMPERIALIST SOCIALIST


    WHY DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AND RUSSIA SUPPORT IRAN SO MUCH?

    WE HAVE TO SUPPORT ANY COUNTRY THAT THE US HATES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE

    I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF ADMIRATION FOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAN, IRAQ, NORTH KOREA, CUBA, VENEZUELA AND EVERY OTHER COUNTRY THAT OPPOSES US IMPERIALISM!!
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    Chavez only expresses public support for Iran because it like venezuela is an oil exporting nation and it wants to keep OPEC together. Thats all

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    God these fuckin stalinists are fucked up(im refering to zendo here), I have several friends who are communists who were forced to flee Iran because their organizations were targeted and all their friends were killed or imprisoned. Rhe current regeim is one of the most active counterevolutionary states in the world!!!

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    They raped someone, and they raped someone underage, they deserved to be hung.
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    The problem is, though, that they wren't hung for raping the child. They were hung for being gay, which is a capitol offense in both Iran and Saudi Arabia.
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    I have no problem with homosexuals, It is their choice in sexual life so leave them be, that killing is outrageous and should not have happened.
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    The iranian state is comprador to EU Capital, and not a "Facist" state. However, that being said, why should communists suppourt the EU&#39;s Banna republic ?
    The Shia&#39;s are no where near as bad as the Americans, and we must Unconditionly defend them against Imperialism BUT we must at the same time advocate there destruction.
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    Iran deserves no support. The White Nationalist Party are anti-American, should we support them?

    I would never support Christian fundamentalism, so im not going to support the Islamic fundamentalist republic that is Iran.
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    Why would anyone in their right mind ever support "Every" country that the United States hates? Do you realize what kind of governments you would be supporting in that case? Governments like those that have started things like genocide in Africa, or the killing fields in Cambodia (Khmer Rouge).

    Zendo, as being the person that started this comment, I say you should rethink this idea.



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    Hanging someone for being gay seems a bit to harsh...

    And to the other discussion you have: If you support anything AGAINST US, then you support the Al Qaida, don&#39;t you? They oppose the US but at the same time would not hesitate to kill you and me.
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    Originally posted by zendo@Jul 25 2005, 05:26 AM
    IRAN DESERVES THE SUPPORT OF EVERY SINGLE ANTI CAPITALIST AND ANTI IMPERIALIST SOCIALIST


    WHY DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AND RUSSIA SUPPORT IRAN SO MUCH?

    WE HAVE TO SUPPORT ANY COUNTRY THAT THE US HATES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE

    I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF ADMIRATION FOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAN, IRAQ, NORTH KOREA, CUBA, VENEZUELA AND EVERY OTHER COUNTRY THAT OPPOSES US IMPERIALISM&#33;&#33;
    I agree completely.

    People that condemn progressive anti-imperialist third world leaders for "human rights abuses" only fuel the propoganda machine of the Yankee/Zionist media. It makes their jobs easier.
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    How could you ignore that some of these governments have commited attrocities? Attrocities that are not just "fuel" for some propoganda machine.

    Are you saying that you would rather see millions of innocent people die so you could unite all countries oppposed to one enemy?



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    Originally posted by zendo@Jul 25 2005, 01:26 AM
    IRAN DESERVES THE SUPPORT OF EVERY SINGLE ANTI CAPITALIST AND ANTI IMPERIALIST SOCIALIST


    WHY DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AND RUSSIA SUPPORT IRAN SO MUCH?

    WE HAVE TO SUPPORT ANY COUNTRY THAT THE US HATES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE

    I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF ADMIRATION FOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAN, IRAQ, NORTH KOREA, CUBA, VENEZUELA AND EVERY OTHER COUNTRY THAT OPPOSES US IMPERIALISM&#33;&#33;
    why the hell would you want to support those countries? im not interested in supporting some rich religious bastard in iran anymore than here in the us. who cares if he&#39;s against the us, they are still the enemy, they are government. and what do you mean support iraq? the new government? cause you can bet who they will side with.
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    Originally posted by Oglaigh na hEireann@Jul 25 2005, 04:02 PM
    How could you ignore that some of these governments have commited attrocities? Attrocities that are not just "fuel" for some propoganda machine.

    Are you saying that you would rather see millions of innocent people die so you could unite all countries oppposed to one enemy?



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    What "millions of people" are you talking about? The Western countries have killed more people through military/economic warfare than any anti-imperialist nation.

    1 million innocent Iraqis died as a result of US/UK backed sanctions alone. Not to mention the thousands that died during the invasions of that country. Or the millions killed during imperialist intervention in Vietnam and Korea.
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    Millions would die if you began turning a blind eye to the actions that some of the governments were taking just so you could have their support in fighting off imperialism.

    And just because "western" countries have done this, that warrants the other side to take the same action to help their cause?

    Stellix, you sound like a war monger.


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    Is the enemy of my enemy my friend?

    In this case, hell no. Though the regime opposes US imperialism, I firmly believe theocracy belongs in history books, not the 21st century.

    Although I admit I don&#39;t know much about Iran. This is just sickening, though.
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    Originally posted by Oglaigh na hEireann@Jul 25 2005, 04:34 PM
    Millions would die if you began turning a blind eye to the actions that some of the governments were taking just so you could have their support in fighting off imperialism.

    And just because "western" countries have done this, that warrants the other side to take the same action to help their cause?

    Stellix, you sound like a war monger.


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    I didn&#39;t even thought that even one communist in the world would support Iran, as far as I know they are against workers movement as much as the US are. Sure you think it&#39;s a good thing they fight the US Imperialism, but don&#39;t support them. If they could they would do exactly as the US is doing today.
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