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Speaking at the launch of the BNP's Daghanam & Barking bi-election campaign, Nick Griffin the fascist leader of the BNP underlined just why using the terror attacks in London to score political points against the Goverment is a reactionary stance.
- BBC
does that speech do on to say:'' and thats why killing them all would be a good idea''?
i don't think we lost control of our borders.we just let people in because our country is a friendly country.
and besides the bombers were born and bred in england.(muslims yes,but british all the same)
we are a multicultural society.just live with it fascists.
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they're turning the weapon factory into a discotheque,they're trying to help out all the kids who are trying to work up a sweat.meanwhile in a new country,business isn't going too great,they're selling catastrophe in thirty second slices of hate.-melomane
I dont think Nick Griffin would think twice about taking us into an illegal war against any country with a different race. He can be an arsehole.
can be - translates as 'IS'
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they're turning the weapon factory into a discotheque,they're trying to help out all the kids who are trying to work up a sweat.meanwhile in a new country,business isn't going too great,they're selling catastrophe in thirty second slices of hate.-melomane
Personally, I think we should round up all the fascists, and send them to Iraq, where they'll be picked up as enemy combatants (God, I love "This Modern World"!. See what "Islamic Extremists" have to experience day by day.
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The other stuff is typical BNP. But this part does pose a problem for leftists, how to avoid reinforcing BNP demagogy or having anything in common with them.
Of course if the BNP says the sky is blue nobody's obligated to say "No, it's yellow."
But in this case it's not actually true; there are plenty of other reasons why Britain is an al-Qaeda target, and was before the Iraq invasion (probably even before Afghanistan). If you look at the original reasons why bin Laden called for Jihad against the U.S., all of them apply to Britain as well: troops in Saudi Arabia, aid to Israel, and the "sanctions" and other attacks on Iraq. The BNP presumably opposes aid to the "Jewish state", and who knows maybe some of the others.
Further bin Laden says:
I offer a truce to them (Europe) with a commitment to stop operations against any state which vows to stop attacking Muslims or interfere in their affairs, including (participating) in the American conspiracy against the wider Muslim world.
This first truce can be renewed upon expiry and the establishment of a new government agreed upon by both parties. And the announcement of the truce starts with the withdrawal of the last soldier from our land and the door is open for three months from the date of the announcement of this statement.
Which involves rather more than simply withdrawing from Iraq. Really it's unrealistic to think powerful capitalist states would ever stop all forms of interference anywhere in the Muslim world of one billion people from Morocco to Central Asia to Indonesia.
One can truthfully say that the bosses and their imperialist system have brought this down on us; that all kinds of war and armed conflict will get worse and not better until their system is destroyed, and no country including Britain will be immune to this...but to say the war in Iraq, or the U.S.-British alliance, are solely responsible for this, is false. And a political adaptation to those who have a merely tactical opposition to this war, sometimes liberalsl but as we see here also ultrarightists.
Fascists like the BNP or Patrick Buchanan sometimes take an "antiwar" or even "anti-empire" stand; but it's a fake and a fraud due to their support for capitalism and nationalism. They think that it's necessary to deal with the ruling class' domestic enemies first, and then the rulers' will be better able to wage bigger and better wars in naked defense of national interest...none of this "multilateral" and "humanitarian intervention" stuff.
(edited minor typo)
where did you get that from? cause i didnt see it in the link you posted
"Further bin Laden says" is a second link. If you don't see the quote there, search within page (control-F).
Severian, I wholeheartedly agree with you. This is the reactionary nature of terrorism in action.
That wasn't really my point here. And I'm not sure that we agree on al-Qaeda's motives; what I posted above seems to me different from what you've posted in other threads.
(Certainly they are reactionary, and the great majority on these boards seem to think so...at least when it comes to attacks within the US & UK. Some do support the actions of reactionary bourgeois nationalists in faraway countries where they don't have to be personally endangered by 'em.)
Well, whatever....
I believe the BNP put on their electoral broadcast an offer to the islamists, namely "Get out of our country and we'll get out of yours".
Fascists can have odd bedfellows. Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP is quite friendly with Black fascist Louis Farrakhan, praising him as "sharing the same aims as white nationalists: racial seperation and racial freedom".
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