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    More than 100 relatives of people killed in China's Tiananmen massacre have called on the government to apologize as the 16th anniversary of the tragedy approaches.

    In an open letter by 125 relatives to President Hu Jintao, the Tiananmen Mothers group said the government's recent accusations against Japan were meaningless because it has not apologized for its own transgressions.

    Hundreds of protesters and citizens were killed in the streets of Beijing when the People's Liberation Army moved in to quell the six week-long democracy protests on June 4, 1989.

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    I thought that information was rather interesting, who here thinks they should apologize?
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    It is interesting, because we hear alot of things about the protests for western democracy coming from Tiannamen square. But once I read that among those protesters were people who were disappointed in the government and thinking it was counter revolutionary.
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    The tianamen square incident is so overplayed by the west because it allows them to say that people "want" western style democracy. People don&#39;t want socialism. It was the people in the first place that brought about the chinese revolution under Mao Zedong and the CCP leadership. Then who are these people who protest for democracy? This demonstration was counter-revolutionary to the chinese government, how else would you deal with counter-revolutionaries?
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    Many of the protestors in Tienamen were singing the Internationale, and the Autonomous Workers Union relesed a communique in the wake of repression calling for "workers of the world to unite", so to say the protestors just wanted bourgoise democracy is a gross simplification.
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    The thing that people forget is exactly that comrade.. these people were protesting FOR communism, not against it&#33;
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    they were protesting because the chinese government was reactionary and oppressive.
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    They were all protesting against an oppressive government. Different groups were portesting for different things. What happened on that day was one of the worst acts of the last half of the twentieth century and an apology should be given.
    In what relations do the Communists stand to the proletarians as a whole? The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to other working class parties. They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole. They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement.
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    Actually, many of the older protestors/dissidents there were originally members of the Chinese Communist Party. Almost every single prominent Chinese writer who was writing at the time of the revolution were ex-revolutionaries who were later exiled for being dissidents. Not counter-revolutionaries at all.
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    The CCP is counter-revolutionary.

    Of course there should be an apology.

    I think they should do more than apologize, those that ordered the massacre should resign.
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    That would be good, but its not very liley to happen.
    In what relations do the Communists stand to the proletarians as a whole? The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to other working class parties. They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole. They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement.
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    I donate-buy a t-shirt form Tianamen Mothers, and my mom gave me a good spank.. ^_^

    Living only miles from Bejing, and to tell you the truth:
    The students were right in some sense, but they were restless, directionless and too euphoric at the later stages of their protests. They only play guitars and were doing nothing and there were intra-conflicts. E.g. The student leader said she knew the students would be killed but she chose to rang away because she think she is an "important" figure. <_<

    One of the student leaders even said, " What do we want? We want time with our girlfriends and we want nike shoes&#33; They are not distributed equally&#33;"

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