Think you got a point there new democracy, but I want to hear the maoist here defend themselfs against this before I can back you up for a 100%.
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in both there is a totalitarian government. both oppress minorities(mao: tibet, manchuria) hitler(jews, gipsies, slavs, etc). both use personality cult. both use very cruel methods against their opponents. both killed millions of people(only mao killed more). both persecute gays. both conquered countries(mao conquered tibet and a small part of india). both ban religion. many maoists turn nazi in germany. both maoist and nazis arguments make no sense. maoists support stalin and everybody here(except the stalinists) say that stalinism is the same as fascism. pol pot was a maoist and he oppressed minorities too and killed allot of people. anyone wnat to back me up here?
(Edited by new democracy at 8:28 pm on Aug. 28, 2002)
Think you got a point there new democracy, but I want to hear the maoist here defend themselfs against this before I can back you up for a 100%.
Reality, is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn\'t go away.
There are some simularities between Nazism and maoism, but I think it would be wrong to say that's the same, that would be blatantly playing down Nazism.
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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ND, 1st you know how i feel about this whole religion thing. The nnazis, as far as i know, dont ban religion(a few exceptions of course).
2nd, why have you suddenly began these ridiculous attacks on maoism and stalinism?
why do i start attack maoism and stalinism in a way that is not ridiculous at all? because they both advocate killing!!!!! if communists here want to approve they realy care about humanity, they shouldn't collaborate with stalinists!!!!!
another question to the stalinists: WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STALIN AND PINOCHET!?
I'm not a "Stalinist" but I don't think Pinochet is Russian.
I dunno about backing you up but Mao was a complete idiot.
anyone who tries to eradicate sparrows is crazy in my book (unless Lee Perry did, then it would be cool).
-insert witty phrase in between two equals sign here-
and it is a well known fact that nazis and fascists are(at least the italians and the germans)proud atheists. in spain the fascists didn't accept atheism.
Augosto Pinochet was from Chile and he was NOT a communist for anyone who cares.
I don't think Mao killed more people than Hitler, but I could be wrong.
Actually you got the major point there. You only forgot one thing.
Maoism and Stalinism have planned economy, Nazism does not...
In other things they are pretty same.
\"The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil.\" - (Albert Eisntein, Why socialism?)
\"Nevertheless, it is necessary to remember that a planned economy is not yet socialism. A planned economy a
what does the maoists have to say for the defence of their ideology?
The Soviet Government between 1917-1991 never rounded up suspected leftists, socialists and Marxists put them into football staduims, shot them all, buried all the bodies in the middle of no where and then do it all when the next CIA check came in.
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''That morning, my father took my hand and we went out. I saw how upset all the Algerians looked and how the French were rejoicing. I asked my father what had happened. He gravely replied: 'Stalin is dead...' I asked who Stalin was. My father said: 'He was the greatest man of our time. He was the leader of the Soviet Union, the greatest revolutionary country. Stalin was the son of a cobbler.' And I thought the son of a cobbler, someone like me...' Algerian Revolutionary in fight against French Imperialism.
The World Revolution is ongoing history. Even if you win the war, which I don’t think you will, the World Revolution will not and cannot be stooped by military means, Your very powerful army can do much harm to us, can kill many of our people - but it cannot kill ideas! Its movement might seem dormant to you at the moment, but it s there and will come to the fore again out of the awakening of the poor, the downtrodden orginary people the world over in Africa, the Americas, in Asia and Europe too. People in their masses will one day understand that it is the power of capital over them which not only oppresses and robs them, but stifles their human potential, which either uses or discards them as mere pawns to make monetary profit out of the,. Once the people grasp that idea, it will mature into an almost material force in popular uprisings like spreading wildfires and will do what has to be done in the name of humanity. It will not be Russia who will do it for them, although the Russian working people were the first who have borken the chains. The people of the will do it for themselves in their own countries, against their own oppressors, in their own ways and in their own time!’
A 'Stalinist Beuracrate' to his Fascist Guards in Nazi Camp.
No they did that to right-wingers instead. It has the same effect though.
Doesn't Nazism have strong roots in Christianity btw??
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nazism have strong roots in german myths like the vikings. this myths were before Christianity.
Stick your democratic socialist horse shit back where it came from, New Democracy(i.e. the capitalists and the bourgeoisis).
(Edited by CheGuevara at 3:11 pm on Aug. 29, 2002)
Wow...that's well mature. How's about you go back to your little world where you, a kid from NY State, and two Columbian guerrillas can overthrow the American system??
Don't like it?? Well don't give it out then...
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I'm glad your queer ass in is UK, one lesss democratic socialist piece of trash to not worry about subverting the movement. By the way, they're Guatemalan and I'm from New Jersey. If you're going to try and insult me, you could at least do a better job. Speaking of people being in their little worlds, you spend an awful lot of time on this board....
(Edited by CheGuevara at 4:21 pm on Aug. 29, 2002)
(Edited by CheGuevara at 4:22 pm on Aug. 29, 2002)
CheGuevara, that is realy immature :biggrin: i dont believe in democratic socialism, if you want to know what i believe check my signature. and why dont you put your fucking ugly face in your mother pussy you fucking stalinist shit!!!!
and the same goes to maoist3!!!!
"I'm glad your queer ass in is UK..."
LMAO...this relates back to a conversation we had in Chit Chat once when he called all homosexuals "pansies" and "weak" btw. Needless to say, his opinion hasn't changed one iota in his (albeit) brief hiatus from this board.
"one lesss democratic socialist piece of trash to not worry about subverting the movement."
Wrong again matey. I'm no demo socialist...
"By the way, they're Guatemalan and I'm from New Jersey. If you're going to try and insult me, you could at least do a better job."
Ah whoops. Silly me, not bothering to read your repetitive and attention-seeking posts.
"Speaking of people being in their little worlds, you spend an awful lot of time on this board...."
LOL...so I'm a fag and a geek now am I Cheggers?? Christ man, get a hold of yourself. What have you been doing then?? I haven't read about any imminent revolutions in either Joisey or Uncle Sammy so obviously nothing worthwhile. Maybe you've been in the glitzy coffee houses hanging out with all those fashion designers you secretly love eh??
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