why maoism is the same as nazism

[Comrade Marcel]

Quote: from new democracy on 8:26 pm on Aug. 28, 2002
in both there is a totalitarian government. both oppress minorities(mao: tibet, manchuria) hitler(jews, gipsies, slavs, etc). both use personality cult. both use very cruel methods against their opponents. both killed millions of people(only mao killed more). both persecute gays. both conquered countries(mao conquered tibet and a small part of india). both ban religion. many maoists turn nazi in germany. both maoist and nazis arguments make no sense. maoists support stalin and everybody here(except the stalinists) say that stalinism is the same as fascism. pol pot was a maoist and he oppressed minorities too and killed allot of people. anyone wnat to back me up here?

(Edited by new democracy at 8:28 pm on Aug. 28, 2002)

[RedRevolutionary87]

pacifists make me sick!!!!!!!!, you have to kill, there is no revolution without deaths, persecuting right wingers is fine, there is nothing wrong with it, if they do something that will endanger the position of the proleteriat they should be killed, plain nd simple. mao did the best he could in a starving country, many more people died under the emporors, and an even larger amount would have starved under chung kai schek or however the fuk you spell it. maoism is not nazism, nazis are racists, maoism does presecute the tibetans cuz they are tibetans, its because of their political ideology, all communists are against religion, if your not your not a communist! mao helped feed millions, its not fucking easy to controll 1/5 of the worlds population, just compare imperial china, with maoist china and lastly nd if your not willing to fight a peoples war fet the fuck off this board or go lock yuorself up in socvcap, or just fuck off and die.

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from RedRevolutionary87 on 6:09 pm on Aug. 30, 2002
persecuting right wingers is fine, there is nothing wrong with it, if they do something that will endanger the position of the proleteriat they should be killed, plain nd simple.

That's fucking disgusting. Holding a political opinion is not a death sentence. To make it so is to eradicate the most basic of human rights. By your logic we should all be dead now. Think you idiot. Fucking think. People like you make me doubt this whole "movement". It's too full of triggerhappy bored pre-puberscents wanting to shoot their classmates. Go out into the real fucking world you moron.

all communists are against religion, if your not your not a communist!

No. The only criteria for being a communist is believing in the abolotion of private property.

[new democracy]

james connoly was religious.

[RedRevolutionary87]

read fucking marx you fucking idiot!! read read READ! DAMN IT...

if they are needed dead because they are endangering the movement then so be it, thats what i said, not because of the thought in their head, but because pf their actions, and no they cant kill us all, kill the proleteriat and kill yourself, who else will produce. im not trigger happy, dont call me trigger happy, and just once think that maybe the person your talking to might just kno their shit just a bit better, but is fed up with this shit, and doesnt want to explain things to morons all over again. marx advocated against religion, he was pro abolishment of religion, and by that you can only go so far, and thats destroying religious gatherings, establishments, and practices that leave the home, religion should be kept to yourself, if you keep it to yourself you have nothing to fear, but religious zealots are all fucking exibitionists, so please if you go to church, and think your priest or reverind or sheikh or rabi deserves his pay kuz he works hard for his pay check then dont dare call yourself a communist, being payed to read to people does nothing better for this world. please dont give me your pacifist shit, its getting old.

[VolareMIRCantare]

Pacifists are the future, one day all violent idiots wil learn the error of their ways and realize that only peaceful means can accomplish somthing. Violence doesn't work, and it doesn't solve anything. Didn't we learn anything in kindergarden, learn, learn, learn, LEARN DAMN IT!!!!

[RedRevolutionary87]

to get to that day where things can be acomplished without violence we need to chisle out the right environment, and that can only be done by removing by force the things tht are keeping us from it, no1 acomplished anything important peacefully, the corporate bussiness owners will not hand over their companies to you, and if they realize they are going down they willt ake you with them

[VolareMIRCantare]

That would be hypocritical, would you become a capitalist for communism???

[RedRevolutionary87]

if i knew that me exploiting these poeple for a few years would bring about a society that wouldnt exploit their children then yes yes i would

[VolareMIRCantare]

Ok, I am sorry, what I wrote about being a capitlist for communism was stupid but I would never do anything violent for communism. Killing or hurting anyone is not the same as becoming a capitalist. Humans are not meant to take the lives of others.

[guerrillaradio]

"read fucking marx you fucking idiot!! read read READ! DAMN IT..."

You're referring to Marxism not Communism then?

"if they are needed dead because they are endangering the movement then so be it, thats what i said, not because of the thought in their head, but because pf their actions..."

So if you were to take part in an anti-capitalist rally then you should be shot then??

"and no they cant kill us all, kill the proleteriat and kill yourself, who else will produce."

Course they wouldn't. They'd just kill the pro-left, regardless of "class", which would actually be a small minority.

"im not trigger happy, dont call me trigger happy, and just once think that maybe the person your talking to might just kno their shit just a bit better, but is fed up with this shit, and doesnt want to explain things to morons all over again."

Well that's really convinced me to kill all those opposing my cause. You aren't justifying yourself here.

"marx advocated against religion, he was pro abolishment of religion, and by that you can only go so far, and thats destroying religious gatherings, establishments, and practices that leave the home, religion should be kept to yourself, if you keep it to yourself you have nothing to fear, but religious zealots are all fucking exibitionists, so please if you go to church, and think your priest or reverind or sheikh or rabi deserves his pay kuz he works hard for his pay check then dont dare call yourself a communist, being payed to read to people does nothing better for this world."

So your issue with religion is that priests are paid?? Hardly very good justification for taking away human rights is it?? Are you gonna stop everything that involves money then?? Man, your arguments don't go anywhere...

"please dont give me your pacifist shit, its getting old."

And Communism isn't?? A system widely discredited by states such as the USSR, China, Cambodia and to a lesser extent Cuba?? A system based on a book written 150 years ago, that doesn't take into account any of the social and class changes that have happened since then?? Well, well, my friend...


(Edited by guerrillaradio at 7:46 pm on Aug. 31, 2002)

[Moskitto]

Religious Socialists

James Connolly
John Ball
Daniel Ortega
Raul Castro
Thomas More
...

And why the fuck does everyone seem think that all communists are working class and all the working class are communists?