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    What do you think about present regime in Iran?
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    it is the most horrible regime in the world!!!! well, maybe after bush...........

    (Edited by new democracy at 2:24 pm on Aug. 28, 2002)
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    Why do you think so? I think it is expresion by the people of Iran against foregin influence, and cultural imperialism of the west. Many leftwingers oppose it without good reason. Have you seen pictures of milions of people on the street of Teheran in 1979, they show the will of the people to take matters into their own hands.
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    and did you see pictures of iran-iraq war? the iranian used children as warriors!!!!!
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    and did you see pictures of iran-iraq war? the iranian used children as warriors!!!!! and you saw pictures of iranian womens? they have to cover their face because of the horrible regime!!!!
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    I think that the Islamic extremist part of it was mighty fucked up. However, I do think it was good because they expelled the foreign oppressors.
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    That about using children as wariors is obviusly lie by an wide rang propaganda war that was waged against Iran. 1980 Iraq invaded Iran and used chemical weapons. Iraq got large military aid from the west and SU.
    At pictures you probably saw 18 or 19 years old members of The Revolutionary guard, that bravely fought the invaders.
    Covering womens faces is traditional in most of the muslim countryes, we as westeners have nothing to do with that. It would we stupid and culturocentric to demand from women to uncover their faces. Many of women say that they dont fell good when being wached by men without any cover on the face.
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    Have you ever been to iran?Almost NOBODY likes the present regime.Although its not so bad anymore.Its getting more liberal each year.If a mullah wants to take a taxi in teheran,the driver usually shouts:"go away criminal,take your mercedes"!(the mullahs are often rich)Sorry,only becasue they're anti-american doesn't mean they're good.
    They didn't use children as soldiers,but they used them to remove mines.(they children ran over a minefield till a mine detonated)
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    Deimos- Are you kurdish? if so where do you live?

    I have lived in Iran for a whilw and things have changed since i was there. when i was there kumaynee (fuck knows how to spell it) was in power and with regards the women thing it was really strict. i think now women can walk around without veils but many still choose to do so.

    One think that i will never forget about that country is the way they "celebrate" religious cerimonies. one particular thing involved people walking down the roads (Thousands) hitting their backs with chains or hitting themselves in the face or chest with full force while chanting.
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    i have nothing against veils as long as the women WANT TO PUT IT. and womens in iran dont like it and they forced to put veil.
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    Deiomos I dont know how a rational person could take that kind of obvius lie as a truth. Iranians are not monsters who would sacrefay their children. They love them like all other peoples in the world..
    I dont like Iran regime only because they are anti-american... It is a true peoples regime
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    Quote: from new democracy on 10:54 am on Aug. 29, 2002
    i have nothing against veils as long as the women WANT TO PUT IT. and womens in iran dont like it and they forced to put veil.
    Have you been to Iran recently?

    In the past they wew forced to wear veils yes but in modernday iran women are given the choice, it is not compulsory.

    As for Iranians being anti-american this is also changing. many iranians lit candles etc. in rememberence after sep 11
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    realy? i am not from amerca so i dont know english very well. veil is covering all your body or just the face? about the children fighters, well iranians are no monsters, but that komainy is!!!!
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    Ayatollah Khomeini was a nasty piece of work. Iran however has been comming on nicely over the last few years, as has Libya.
    People attack the veil wearing thing, but it was only a few hundred years ago that women in many European nations had to cover their hair in public.
    Islam is a young religion, but it is improving in leaps and bounds in the face of religious dogma. It took the Christian nations much longer to liberalise.
    The avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.
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    Well. Look at my view of religion. Then you get my idea of Iran. However, i am more sympathetic to the iranians then the americans
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    it is absolutely, positively FALSE that iranian women are not forced to wear veils. where did you get that from hawarameen? WOMEN ARE FORCED TO WEAR VEILS IN IRAN. and men are not allowed to wear shorts. there is nothing, NOTHING good about the government of iran. absolutely nothing. the people were fooled into thinking the revolution was about taking iran back from foreign influences and putting it in the hands of the people, and about creating a democracy and ousting the corrupt shah out of power, but there was so much, SO MUCH more to what the islamic government ment to do (and subsequently did).

    (get this, before the revolution, when the khoumeineh was trying to gain support to overthrow the shah, he promised that scarfs would not become mandatory. when he was called on this claim, after the revolution, he said it was a necessary lie - for the good of the people)

    the largest part of iranian people absolutely HATE the government, and the few that don't are fundamentalists themselves. the people are more and more embracing of american and western culture, but they don't support most of what the government of the u.s. does (much like the rest of the world) .

    i'd like to clarify again:
    -women are forced to wear veils and are not allowed to wear makeup, show ankles, etc. (yeah, i admit it's getting more lax, but only if the armed guards are in a good mood)
    -the people do NOT support the government
    -once again: WOMEN ARE FORCED TO WEAR VEILS (by veils i mean the ones that cover the hair, not the face thing. basically, the standard clothing is an overcoat with a scarf like thing covering the hair)
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    i have seen pictures from iran and have spoken to people who have been there and from i have seen and been told there are many young women that walk around freely showing their hair.

    lett me inform you that the wearing of veils in islam is optional and those governments who force women to wear it are extremists.

    not that i am religious in any way, i think its all poo
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    @hawarameen:iam half kurdish,and i live in austria.my father is from northern iraq.

    i have been to iran 3 times.(only transit.we were travelling to southern kurdistan)I've never seen a woman in public without a towel(iam not sure what a "veil" is exactly,becasue there are diferrent types of towels).
    THe regime isn't a "true peoples regime" at all.Nobody likes it, especcially in the cities.
    I didn't say that iranians are monsters.I said that they used children to remove mines.The people who did that are monsters, not the iranians.
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    i am from iran, and i've been back numerous times. the only time you see women without their veils is if they're just getting the mail or walking around in residential areas and even that's often in fear. i am perfectly aware that islam itself doesn't force the wearing of veils, but the government of iran does.

    and it's not just that. if a young man is seen walking with a young woman, they are often picked up and questioned. if there are a group of young people in a car, they are often stopped and questioned and sometimes taken in. it's ridiculous. obviously when faced with such hardships, the people find ways to work around the system, but the fact remains that the govt of iran takes away many many of the rights of the iranian people (especially the young)
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    Deimos - i am also kurdish, from sulaimani originaly but living in uk

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