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    SovietWrench
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    What problems do people commonly see in communism? A fairly common one that I've seen is problem that in a state of communism, there would always be some a***ole there to skrew it up. People are going to organize against the communist society. I may have a solution...

    Super robots! Atomic men from space! We can all be equally inferior to the metallo menace! Let's not wait for our heat ray vision friends to come to us, let's make them here and now! Throw off the chains of freedom from robotic nightmares! From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, and to all according to his carbon-based life form! Hasta la victoria siempre! Untill victory, always! You know... untill we're all slaughtered by the robot menace...
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    Great topic.

    You must've seen that apparent CGI masterpiece -- and critical flop -- "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow". Maybe "I Robot" too. Time for the antidote...

    H. G. Wells dealt with the question of future communist society in his "The Shape of Things to Come". I saw the movie a few times; I downloaded the book; but I couldn't read the damn thing past the point where this fabian shithead started proving he didn't understand a damned thing about marxism and communism. I'm like that: I tune-out at the point where pompous oafs start demonstrating that they're faking it... Same with that other fabian, Bernard Shaw (go watch or read Major Barbara for another glimpse of our Glorious Future. The movie has the Big Visuals probably not found in a highschool play version).

    In "The Shape of Things to Come", the usual bourgeois fears are trotted out: it's just so damned BORING under communism! No wars! No strife! What's a model citizen to DO??? I KNOW!! REVOLT!! REVOLT!!

    Jesus H. Christ but that's pathetic -- not to mention just plain bullshit anti-communist propaganda.
    I much preferred the more realistic earlier part of the movie in post-apocalyptic England, where the Skymen take on the local warlords...

    A more dreamy, sophisticated -- but non-technical -- vision of our communist future is William Morris' "News From Nowhere". Highly-recommended introductory reading for doubting Thomases... Morris, besides being a famous artisan and designer in his own right, was a well-known communist in England -- and was actually a comrade of Eleanor Marx; and I believe he knew Karl the father well too.

    But getting back to the original complaint wihch set me off on this tear against bourgeois anti-communist idiocy: it's a canard to think that communism will somehow be fragile -- even a BORING state of affairs. Believe me (or not): the members of future communist will certainly at least look back on us and our "exciting times" like we look back on the Dark Ages -- fun times for costume parties, but that's about it. Frankly, I think they'll just be bored at the thought of the short, brutish lives of their ancestors -- and then get right back to planning their mutli-generational trips to our new-found sister civilizations on the other side of Arcturus...
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    I forgot to mention you're probably having nightmares over the new BattleStar Galactica too.

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